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I see that you are aware that the revisionist history taught in our schools is a load of BS. Congratulations on being among the few with a true perspective on American history. You are of course right about Abe and FDR, but you'll have to admit that the Bush administration is currently in third place and vying for one of the top positions. VWW
Better think again anrajala. Osama and the vast majority of Saudis are Sunnis not Shias. You are right about Saddam and 9/11 however. VWW
You are right about Clinton and his strategy for saving children polocies, but isn't Bush doing the same thing in Iraq? VWW
My point was that Bush's unconstitutional "war" has killed and maimed even more children than Clinton's unconstitutional mass murder at Waco. VWW
Apparently you missed most of the pre-war rhetoric pdad. Our current fearless leader and his minions endlessly trumpeted the Iraq/Al Queida connection to the point where opinion polls showed that over 60% of the people belived that Saddam's regime was directly complicit in the 9/11 attack. For an insiders view read Karen Kwiatkowski's archives at lewrockwell.com. As for the possibility of an Iraqi biological or nuclear attack see Gordon Prathers archive at wnd.com. The plain truth is and was that Saddam's nuclear capability was destroyed post Dessert Storm, and any biological weapons that he had stockpiled, and which he lacked the capability to reproduce after years of inspections, had degraded to uselessness.
Let us pray that we never decide to go it alone and invade every country that breaks UN edicts. Otherwise we will be invading Isreal, Sudan, Rawanda, Zimbabwe, Uzbekistan, and a host of others.
As for bold STRATEGIC moves, we have a little piece of paper that you may have heard of. We call it the constitution, and it prohibits these types of "adventures" by the executive branch of our government. To use your arguement what kind of precedent would we be setting if, as the final arbiters of our government, we allow this type of blatantly illegal activity from someone that is bound by oath and duty to uphold the law?
None of us has a crystal ball, but the hand writing is clearly on the wall that the strategic consequenses of this poorly contrived debacle will not bode well for the future of our dealings with the rest of the world. VWW
Let us pray that we never decide to go it alone and invade every country that breaks UN edicts. Otherwise we will be invading Isreal, Sudan, Rawanda, Zimbabwe, Uzbekistan, and a host of others.
As for bold STRATEGIC moves, we have a little piece of paper that you may have heard of. We call it the constitution, and it prohibits these types of "adventures" by the executive branch of our government. To use your arguement what kind of precedent would we be setting if, as the final arbiters of our government, we allow this type of blatantly illegal activity from someone that is bound by oath and duty to uphold the law?
None of us has a crystal ball, but the hand writing is clearly on the wall that the strategic consequenses of this poorly contrived debacle will not bode well for the future of our dealings with the rest of the world. VWW
Only Congress can declare war pbad. The so called granting of authority by Congress was in itself an unconstitional act. Can't change it's constitutional duties without a LEGAL amendment process which involves ratification by 3/4 of the states.
Hans Blix also said that the inspection process was working and no WMD were found. Prior to the invasion Saddam offered the CIA to come and show Blix's inspection teams all of the "evidence" they had to help in finding the non-existant WMD. I wonder why they refused?
Do yourself a Favor and look at the lewrockwell.com archives written by someone that worked in the pentegon's near east intell division for clarification on the machinations of spinning intelligence to skew it for the Bush cabals desire for war. VWW
Hans Blix also said that the inspection process was working and no WMD were found. Prior to the invasion Saddam offered the CIA to come and show Blix's inspection teams all of the "evidence" they had to help in finding the non-existant WMD. I wonder why they refused?
Do yourself a Favor and look at the lewrockwell.com archives written by someone that worked in the pentegon's near east intell division for clarification on the machinations of spinning intelligence to skew it for the Bush cabals desire for war. VWW
Yes pbad was a typo sorry about that. If I ever start using Kpaul's material please be so kind as to seek me out and euthanise me.
I see that mile eater correctly asserted that the "police actions" you mentioned were in fact all illegal, wether tacitly approved of by congress of not. Just because "we" allowed this type of criminal stupidity in the past, it is not a valid reason for sentient beings to let these type of actions go unchallenged now or in the future.
Karen Kwiatowski was just the canary in the coal mine, as her ACCURATE assessment of the doctoring of intel for pro war propaganda purposes have been upheld by a barage of former insiders of the current administration. I am surprised that anyone could come to the conclusion that the Bush team was on the up and up after numerous experts, including Dr. Gordon Prather one of our country's formost atomic physicists, showed what rediculous canards the much ballyhooed Niger yellow cake uranium, and the aluminum centrifuge tubes really were.
It is quite interesting that you would invoke Saddam's non-cooperation of UN mandates as a ligitimate causus belli, and then point out that the UN had a vested interest in the Iraqi status quo. Of couse my opinion is that the corrupt UN should be immediately abolished, just as I feel that the criminal element in our nations capital should be expunged. VWW
I see that mile eater correctly asserted that the "police actions" you mentioned were in fact all illegal, wether tacitly approved of by congress of not. Just because "we" allowed this type of criminal stupidity in the past, it is not a valid reason for sentient beings to let these type of actions go unchallenged now or in the future.
Karen Kwiatowski was just the canary in the coal mine, as her ACCURATE assessment of the doctoring of intel for pro war propaganda purposes have been upheld by a barage of former insiders of the current administration. I am surprised that anyone could come to the conclusion that the Bush team was on the up and up after numerous experts, including Dr. Gordon Prather one of our country's formost atomic physicists, showed what rediculous canards the much ballyhooed Niger yellow cake uranium, and the aluminum centrifuge tubes really were.
It is quite interesting that you would invoke Saddam's non-cooperation of UN mandates as a ligitimate causus belli, and then point out that the UN had a vested interest in the Iraqi status quo. Of couse my opinion is that the corrupt UN should be immediately abolished, just as I feel that the criminal element in our nations capital should be expunged. VWW
If we had only killed and maimed the bad guys in Iraq, we wouldn't have the term "collateral damage" used in most of the major and some of the minor actions taken during this war. While it may be true that neihter Bush nor Clinton wanted innocent people killed, the plain fact is that their actions resulted in the death of a lot of innocents being killed. Captain, If you or I accidentally killed even one person in some ill concieved action, what do you think that the ramifications would be for us? Shouldn't we hold our "elected" officials to that same standard? VWW
The constitution was written in plain language for the basic reason that no other interpretation was ever to take the place of this concisely worded document. Our forefathers had a justly deserved fear of too powerful a government, and took great pains to eliminate any wiggle room in the constitutions meaning. Just read the Federalist Papers, and you will find that James Madison, the father of our constitution meant just that. The various and often creative penumbras found by our judicially active supreme court are further evidence that our government run schools have taken intelligent folks, such as yourself, and made them belive this interpretive meaning drivel. VWW
While most of the "collateral damage" in Iraq was due to bombing and artillery quite a few were killed by mistake by individual soldiers in fear for their lives. That blood is on our hands. VWW
The soldiers I was refering too weren't in danger of losing their lives. They mistakenly shot some people that weren't the bad guys. If I'm in fear for my life, does that give me the right to start shooting at everyone in my neighborhood? VWW
Perhaps if KP's hero John Kerry is elected he will appoint KP as the U.S. ambassador to Faluja. Let's start the letter writing campaign now. VWW
Actually I do think that the Bush administration told at least one outright lie. The Nigerian yellow cake document was such an obvious fraud that even the incompetent UN officials saw through it in less than a day. The war in Iraq was not so much a war to steal the oil there, as to maneuver the output of those oil fields into the control of U.S. based oil conglomorates, as the French and a few other players had pretty much sewn them up. You don't have to be a rockect scientist to see which corporations have already reaped huge profits from this ill advised foreign adventure. The fact that the largest staffed U.S. embassy in the world is under constuction in Iraq is a good indicator that U.S. interests will be playing a large role there for some time to come, and any military bases there (and there will be some for years to come) will give the U.S. a significant strategic advantage in controlling the political climate, and therefore the oil supply in the entire middle east.
I havn't yet read Jhon Stossel's book, but I have seen a few of his libertarian, small government programs on ABC. I happen to be in complete agreement with what he espouses, but I was already mad (in more ways than one) as I have been shouting that kind of stuff for years. VWW
I havn't yet read Jhon Stossel's book, but I have seen a few of his libertarian, small government programs on ABC. I happen to be in complete agreement with what he espouses, but I was already mad (in more ways than one) as I have been shouting that kind of stuff for years. VWW
Perhaps Spain's paranoia is due to the ancestral memory they have about being conquered and occupied by the moors. VWW
Michael Moore is without a doubt a socialist self serving wind bag. I disagreed whole heartedly with him on his second amendment hit piece Bowling for Columbine. That being said as the old saying goes even a stopped clock is right twice a day. I have yet to see his 9/11 film but I have seen some good reviews of it on some of the paleo-conservative libertarian websites I read daily. His idea about the Israelis was of course pure unadulterated idiocy. He, however has a good point about the Taliban, as the last I heard Mullah Omar and many Taliban fighters are still roaming the countryside there. VWW
Always good to hear differing viewpoints from rational people HK. VWW
Don't forget that Afganistan was the USSR's Vietnam. I know that we gave aid to the Mujadeen (sp?) then, but the Taliban and their ally Al Queda are supported by some fairly wealthy folks in the middle east. To accomplish the goal of pacifying the countryside there by ridding it of both of the afore mentioned groups will most likely take many years, and a whole lot more troops than the 10,000 that we have there now. VWW
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