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Your Credibility is quickly fading without Honda's support. I hate to say it, but you cannot be taken seriously without including a Honda product in the 600c.c. shootout, and the Sport Touring shootout! Do what is needed to get Honda back, or you better start renting bikes from new owners, or buying one and reselling said model. Geez, you could have a contest whereby you give your readers a chance to win the used Honda from the Shootouts?!?
 

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Dude, what part of us testing the CBR and Honda corporate buying ads @MO (not to mention we didn't even ask for an ST1300 because we didn't think it would compete well in the test) is not telling you that things are happier in MO/Honda Land?
 

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Compete well? I don't know how it would compete. That's why I read these articles and shootouts. By not including it I still don't know. By the specs it would surely not compete in the sport area but.... This was a comparison between not just the sport side but also the touring. Is this the way of new sport touring? Mostly sport with a little touring. Even the Concours belongs here. It makes a pretty good mix between sport and tour. When you throw in the working mans price it's pretty sweet even if its old news.
 

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Ah yes, "you beat the nicest people on a Honda" I remember that one from when the Elsinore 250 came out. sounds like the cbr600rr kicks ass, So from riding the other 600's and now this one, how do you think it would rate?
 

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In the immortal words of Ray Romano...



"Sweet Sassy Molassie!" I want one bad.



I'm taking my Motorcycle Basic Rider's course this month, I'm all signed up and ready to go. I admit I am scared. I have ridden before, but not too well and even wiped out. I hope I do well and learn what they teach me, I look forward to not just being a fan of motorcycles, but a motorcyclist. I hope to see you guys on the road soon.
 

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OH NO! NOT THE CONCOURS ARGUEMENT AGAIN! AAGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!



;-)



(We cannot win. Giving up, the MORons go home now)



Have fun this weekend MOFos, very cool content coming next week, and the week after that (dang embargos, where's the fun in that? Isn't this the 'Net? Like, duh, NOW ALREADY!)
 

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Wow, actually taking the MSF course. Good. Suggestion might be to get something less "new" for the first six months, as from your post you may need a bit of time to get your skill level up. Something less expensive until you determine if riding is really for you. And buy good safety gear, don't cheap out. At least be safe as you idle the thing around town



Or not.



Advanced bike for one with remedial skills. Nice. And until you get your skill level to "reasonably competent" please stay the hell away from me on the road.

 

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>>I'm taking my Motorcycle Basic Rider's course this month, I'm all signed up and ready to go. I admit I am scared.<<



As well you should be (scared). This is a heck of a lot of bike.



That said, the bike itself is not a death sentence or fast track to the brain tank, if you ride sensibly and don't push your luck. The Peoples idea of going with something less high strung and more crash resistant is good advice, imo. Good luck though either way.
 

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My Bad...

Sorry, I was called away on Pressing Bidness and did not get a chance to Edit Yossef's very nice article, which is sad since I am the Editor. On the other hand, Yossef does not do so bad in English for a man who speaks--also writes and reads--six languages, is it? Big Love to YS.

Bashley, when will you change "Talk Some Smack" to something more dignified, like "Upchuck a Thought" or "Peel off a Brain Cell"? Anything woman, anything...
 

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Re: My Bad...

Dammit man, whatever it was that was so pressing as to pull you away from your cyber duties is probably incredibly important.

At least to a small minority....but none the less back to work!!!

-The People
 

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According to the button I'm 'upchucking a thought'. Thanks Burns!



I saw the oval piston bits and seem to remember an oval piston streetbike they made around the same time.



Anyone? Little help? Memory fuzzy...









-=Goggles=-

 

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That RC51 cutaway seems to have grown a couple of extra cylinders. Could You have meant RC30 or RC45?



Nice review, but the whole class is getting so freaking good that you need the comparo.



One final rant: Am I just turning into a reactionary old fart, or is anyone else concerned that this new crop of 600s might be considered entry level bikes by newbies. I cut my road riding teeth on a CB400 that would occasionally lose stop light races to station wagons. Of course it also had skinny rock-hard tires and drum brakes, so maybe I was in much greater peril than I thought. I guess it doesn't matter as long as you still meet the nicest people on a Honda.
 

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I really do think that starting your biking life (for all intents and purposes)on a super sport 600 that capable of 160, and that has a fairly radical riding position that encourages fast riding, is definitely not smart. Get going on something like a Gs500 suzi or an equivalent Kawasaki GPZ500 and spend a year or more getting up to speed. Take a beginners course to start and after a year do an advanced riders course. Frankly I think it takes more than 3-5 years or more to get really skilled.You have already wiped yourself out once due to inexperience, do you want to repeat that ? And maybe not walk away the next time.!!! I know its hard to be patient but there will be nice bikes to ride a year from now , and you will have much more fun riding them with all those newly acquired skills. Safe riding.
 
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