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Re: Go read Burns Harley Book Review its a great description on the Harley

Hey BuzLightYear tell SeraSuzy he just got sucked in by a 13 year old. :) It is so much fun taking on 4 of you mental giants at once. Kind of like Bruce Lee in Enter the Dragon. Hi Ya !
 

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Re: It has to do with what you said

Before you come out of your delusions about companies copying other companies, can I enlighten you a little? Companies like Ducati and Harley are not copying as you call it the other companies because they have built up a heritage and style of their own that they either can't really afford to (Ducati) abandon or are too chicken or stupid (Harley).

The "Big 4" make the big V-twin cruisers because they saw a great market segment that Harley seemed to have to itself. The unfortunate thing for those guys and eventually their designs is that the buying public in the good ol Ewe Esse Eh that want cruisers want something like a Harley.

Now when you see Triumph enter the most competitive market segment for motorcycles out there, you accuse them of copying. Why? Because they chose to use the same capacity? Because they chose to use the same engine configuration? These are both the defining factors of this segment. Hang on, it's not because the bike isn't belt drive is it? Oh wait, you are accusing the bike of being Japanese because they sourced some parts from some Japanese suppliers? In that case, I would rather buy a British "copy of a Japanese" bike than an "All American" POS that is going to fail on me every second time I try to ride it.

Then again, I've always liked tinkering with things, maybe I might get to know the insides of a Harley. No Thank you

Ride Carefully folks - They're out there
 

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Re: It has to do with what you said

Yes, the Triumph is a copy. If you don't like a Harley, don't buy one. Why you respond with your stupidity, I don't know. Since you said Harley copied the French, I'm still waiting for that link to the 88 cubic inch 45 degree air-cooled V-Twin they copied. When you come up with that one, respond, otherwise go away.
 

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Re: Paint it how you want.

So Triumph is targeting the aging rider that wants a 600 sportbike? Ok. Yes, it should sell better than the last one. The only way it could sell worse is if they spread horse manure all over the new ones and flattened the tires. Like I said, I think they have better ways to spend their money.
 

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Re: It has to do with what you said

The definition of 'copy' is 'reproduction of an original'.

With this definition, the closest thing to a 'copy' in motorcycling I can think of would be homologation bikes, which are street legal reproductions of race-bikes.

No-one on the forum seems to share your understanding of what a 'copy' is.

Repeating your copy statement and your mis-interpretation of Yossef's title, calling other people stupid and telling them to go away is not going to get any points across. Except maybe that apparently your arguments aren't very impressive after all...

So you think Triumph may be making a bad business decision, get over it.
 

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Re: It has to do with what you said

And reproducing a Japanese 600 is what Triumph did. What do you think they did? Produce an original?? LOL I don't give a shyt what anyone in the forum understands or doesn't. I said what I said, and stand by it. Calling people stupid is what they derserve at times. You act stupid, you get called stupid. I call em as I see em. My arguments don't need to be "impressive", they just need to be correct, which they are. The Triumph is a copy of a Japanese 600. It's right on the money. The only thing I need to "get over" is stupid people telling me to "get over" something. Hard to get over the truth though.
 

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Last I heard Triumph had placed in the top 10 with at least one of their Daytonas in most (if not all) of the races they've entered, and have a podium place or two as well. Not bad for "a knock-off of a two year old Kawasucky"... not to mention that they haven't done any sponsored racing in 28 years.
 

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Re: Racing Triumphs?

Triumph seems to think that there's enough room in the 600 sportbike catagory for another player, I'm sure there are a few people who would like 600 sportbike performance without losing their bikes at every stop in a sea of R6's, GSXR's and CBR-RR's. Using an inline 4 and frame geometry thats similar to the other's makes sense because thats what works the best, so far. Triumph manufactures almost everything in house on their bikes other than wheels, brakes, some suspension components and some electronic components. To be honest I'm surprised at the level of disdain for Triumph of some poster's, I'm guessing it's some 50's era regression from when Triumph kicked sand all over HD and Indian. Goes with the Harley-burger joint personna, Eh?
 

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Re: Paint it how you want.

I currently have two track/race bikes - a Mille and F4. I am looking for a replacement for my F4 and am seriously considering the new Triumph (though I really like all three of the new Asian 600s). I simply want something different and for it to be competitive. I am confident that the Triumph would at least equal my F4. Hopefully, I will know soon.
 
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