2006 KTM 950 Supermoto Quick Ride
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gabe ... your writing is getting really, really good. visiting san fran must be good for your soul.
thx for the super evaluation.
i predict a super-motard revolution. what is really happening is that people are discovering bikes can be both fun and comfortable.
us older guys knew it all along.
thx for the super evaluation.
i predict a super-motard revolution. what is really happening is that people are discovering bikes can be both fun and comfortable.
us older guys knew it all along.
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That's a good review. I just can't see $14k+ otd. I think that may be $3k too high with the current Speed Triple and Monster S2R 1000 at $9999. Oh, and a tach would be nice. Maybe a 2005 KTM Adventure and a set of excel wheels would be a good use of $14k.
Why do they even try??
"Some buffoon on an open-piped Harley something-or-other came roaring up behind me to do his I'm-a-badass-because-I-have-a-"Hell's Angels Frisco"-sticker-on-my-windshield-roar-past-you thing, so I dropped a gear and twisted Mr. Throttle, turning Johnnie Goatee into a rapidly-shrinking angry black dot in the KTM's blurry mirror. Why do those guys even try, anyway? Do they crave humiliation? "
I have had this happen several times on my 04 XB12S Buell, Mr. Harley badass or Mr. Mustang / Camaro / Vette thinks they are bad ass and going to cut me off by out running me to the next light or turn off. Sorry guys, but it ain't happin!!
I'll tell you why they do it again and again, because when I'm on the Buell, (I'm 6'2") and a large person is on the KTM 950 Supermoto they look to be like a 1. Small gutless bike that a stock Honda Civic can mess with or 2. THey think they may be some kind of off-road gutless bike.
Both these bikes will flat out rock off the line!
You gotta love that!!
"Some buffoon on an open-piped Harley something-or-other came roaring up behind me to do his I'm-a-badass-because-I-have-a-"Hell's Angels Frisco"-sticker-on-my-windshield-roar-past-you thing, so I dropped a gear and twisted Mr. Throttle, turning Johnnie Goatee into a rapidly-shrinking angry black dot in the KTM's blurry mirror. Why do those guys even try, anyway? Do they crave humiliation? "
I have had this happen several times on my 04 XB12S Buell, Mr. Harley badass or Mr. Mustang / Camaro / Vette thinks they are bad ass and going to cut me off by out running me to the next light or turn off. Sorry guys, but it ain't happin!!
I'll tell you why they do it again and again, because when I'm on the Buell, (I'm 6'2") and a large person is on the KTM 950 Supermoto they look to be like a 1. Small gutless bike that a stock Honda Civic can mess with or 2. THey think they may be some kind of off-road gutless bike.
Both these bikes will flat out rock off the line!
You gotta love that!!
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Re: Why do they even try??
I think that these guys simply have no experience with motorcycles that have horsepower to weight ratios of 7 pounds/hp or less. Very few cars have a ratio of less than 12 pounds/hp. Even the new 300hp Lexus and such have +10lbs/hp. These drones watch commercials, listen to salesmen, read Car&Driver and come away thinking that their fancy overrated cages can out-perform motorcycles.
The average naked standard or sportbike simply blows cars away. Even my 85 ironhead Sporster (ported heads and S&S Carb) had no trouble humiliating "performance cars" on the street. There's simply no contest. You have to spend in the area of $150,000 to find a car with the acceleration and braking of a bike like an FZ1, Speed Triple, Hayabusa. The bikes that some people call beginners bikes like SV650s will easily humiliate expensive cages.
Suits! If you can't afford MacLaren F1s then don't bother. Get Camrys. Leave the motorcycles alone, suits.
I think that these guys simply have no experience with motorcycles that have horsepower to weight ratios of 7 pounds/hp or less. Very few cars have a ratio of less than 12 pounds/hp. Even the new 300hp Lexus and such have +10lbs/hp. These drones watch commercials, listen to salesmen, read Car&Driver and come away thinking that their fancy overrated cages can out-perform motorcycles.
The average naked standard or sportbike simply blows cars away. Even my 85 ironhead Sporster (ported heads and S&S Carb) had no trouble humiliating "performance cars" on the street. There's simply no contest. You have to spend in the area of $150,000 to find a car with the acceleration and braking of a bike like an FZ1, Speed Triple, Hayabusa. The bikes that some people call beginners bikes like SV650s will easily humiliate expensive cages.
Suits! If you can't afford MacLaren F1s then don't bother. Get Camrys. Leave the motorcycles alone, suits.
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Re: Why do they even try??
"You have to spend in the area of $150,000 to find a car with the acceleration and braking of a bike like an FZ1"
I dunno, my '94 RX7 TT was scary fast, and it cost around 30 grand. Was as much fun as a bike (when not stuck in traffic).
You're right though, hell I drag race cars on my Suzuki 90, and can do pretty good up till around 45 or so.
"You have to spend in the area of $150,000 to find a car with the acceleration and braking of a bike like an FZ1"
I dunno, my '94 RX7 TT was scary fast, and it cost around 30 grand. Was as much fun as a bike (when not stuck in traffic).
You're right though, hell I drag race cars on my Suzuki 90, and can do pretty good up till around 45 or so.
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Re: Why do they even try??
YOU LEFT WING SONOVA...damn, fished in again.
...Wait, I don't vote Repub, never mind.
YOU LEFT WING SONOVA...damn, fished in again.
...Wait, I don't vote Repub, never mind.
Man Purse? Man Purse?!?
Man Purses (Men Purse?) are small and have no staps. My bag is large and has a strap. It is a messenger bag and in fact, you said (in December 2005):
"these messanger bags are an alternative I am going look at... "
Starting an "alternative lifestyle", are we? Is the great prophet discovering a lighter, more feminine side to his personality? Are we going to get cooking and decorating tips from the artist-formerly-known-as-kpaul?
Gabe
Man Purses (Men Purse?) are small and have no staps. My bag is large and has a strap. It is a messenger bag and in fact, you said (in December 2005):
"these messanger bags are an alternative I am going look at... "
Starting an "alternative lifestyle", are we? Is the great prophet discovering a lighter, more feminine side to his personality? Are we going to get cooking and decorating tips from the artist-formerly-known-as-kpaul?
Gabe
You will wait a long time...
The big four would NEVER build a bike like this! It would be watered-down, unless there was some kind of racing class with global interest that would spur development. Otherwise, the bikes would be watered-down and not so raw.
The DL1000 comes to mind. A great bike, but too heavy and squooshy to be in the same league as this bike or a motard HP-2 (for which I would donate one of Pete's kidneys to ride.)
Gabe
The big four would NEVER build a bike like this! It would be watered-down, unless there was some kind of racing class with global interest that would spur development. Otherwise, the bikes would be watered-down and not so raw.
The DL1000 comes to mind. A great bike, but too heavy and squooshy to be in the same league as this bike or a motard HP-2 (for which I would donate one of Pete's kidneys to ride.)
Gabe
It would be worth every penny of the $13,000, in my opinion. It looks FAR more comfortable than a sportbike or a cruiser. Plus it has a distinctive style. If I could buy any bike without considering price, my skill level, gas mileage, or insurance...this would be on the short list.
KTM is also bringing over the 640 Adventure this year. It has almost as much charisma as the supermoto, and it is much more practical.
I think that KTM/Victory will be a very strong competitor in the future.
KTM is also bringing over the 640 Adventure this year. It has almost as much charisma as the supermoto, and it is much more practical.
I think that KTM/Victory will be a very strong competitor in the future.
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I'm following you.
CW has a "computer illustration" of a Honda FMX 1000 in the August magazine.(pg. 30) Think KTM 950SM made by honda with the VTR/RC51 motor. This is about the third or so time I have seen the same hypothetical bike from different sources.
Check it out.
CW has a "computer illustration" of a Honda FMX 1000 in the August magazine.(pg. 30) Think KTM 950SM made by honda with the VTR/RC51 motor. This is about the third or so time I have seen the same hypothetical bike from different sources.
Check it out.
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