Back in '98 I worked with a motorcycle shop in GA that was the 1st Victory dealer. I watched the Polaris guys come into the shop and hand pick 2 of the 8 full-time techs and take them to MN for "Victory School". Although they had teething problems the bike were pretty good for the first run. Now, the guys at Polaris are pushing forward pretty quickly in their R&D and will be a major pain in the a$$ for many manufactures including HD. With the deal they struck with KTM it wouldn't be unreasonable to think they are getting something together to give Eric and his crew fits. The real losers in this are the "clone" guys. Big Dog is pretty safe but Patriot, Steed, Am Iron Horse and others will be history within 3-5 years.