2007 Suzuki Burgman 400 Introduction Report
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All This Scooter Stuff is Weird, says Gabe...
I've been working here at MO for 19 months now, and have done precious little scooter content. Then, suddenly, we're awash in scooter content and there's more on the way.
Not to worry, Mr. Freen, we are not becoming scooter.com. We're only planning to do one or two features next year on scooters (if we get invited to an intro, that doesn't count, as we have to write about whatever they invite us to), so I don't think we're becoming scooter.com.
The scooter market is burgeoning, and this story is doing better than a lot of the motorcycle related stories we've done, but that's not why we have a lot of scooter stuff.
The reason is there is interest from the motorcycling public in them, so we cover them. We also cover bike that I don't really like personally -- like Harleys -- but I ride them and report on them anyway.
I'm grateful you resubscribed and promise you plenty of content you like. You just have to take the good with the bad. Remember we offer a lot more content than most print magazines, so just skip the scooter stuff and wait for the good stories.
Gabe
I've been working here at MO for 19 months now, and have done precious little scooter content. Then, suddenly, we're awash in scooter content and there's more on the way.
Not to worry, Mr. Freen, we are not becoming scooter.com. We're only planning to do one or two features next year on scooters (if we get invited to an intro, that doesn't count, as we have to write about whatever they invite us to), so I don't think we're becoming scooter.com.
The scooter market is burgeoning, and this story is doing better than a lot of the motorcycle related stories we've done, but that's not why we have a lot of scooter stuff.
The reason is there is interest from the motorcycling public in them, so we cover them. We also cover bike that I don't really like personally -- like Harleys -- but I ride them and report on them anyway.
I'm grateful you resubscribed and promise you plenty of content you like. You just have to take the good with the bad. Remember we offer a lot more content than most print magazines, so just skip the scooter stuff and wait for the good stories.
Gabe
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Re: All This Scooter Stuff is Weird, says Gabe...
Thanks, Gabe, for the response. You know your audience better than I do, so I'll quit my sniveling. I see there is a fair amount of interest in scooters here, and my carping about it was bad manners. My apologies.
Greg
Thanks, Gabe, for the response. You know your audience better than I do, so I'll quit my sniveling. I see there is a fair amount of interest in scooters here, and my carping about it was bad manners. My apologies.
Greg
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Well, he orchestrated some other attacks
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Its Mad Dog. Mad Dog or nothing.
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The stock commuter scooters are starting to kick some softer ass. I have not seen any dyno charts but if I was on a 883 and somebody pulled next to me on a 650 Burgman on a red light, I would certainly wish I did not have a hot babe on the back seat.
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I am all for the censorship. We should all have the same opinion. Who needs critical thought.
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Re: Snort!
The guy was dry and crisp. The pants were still wet.
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The guy was dry and crisp. The pants were still wet.
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Re: All This Scooter Stuff is Weird, says Gabe...
Its too late now pal. We know where you live. When you least expect it you will hear a scooter rumbling on your driveway
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Its too late now pal. We know where you live. When you least expect it you will hear a scooter rumbling on your driveway
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Don't the big scooters negate the supposed benefits of scooters over similar sized motorcycles (light and economical)? From Suzuki's site -
Weight Burgman - 518 lbs/235 kg
SV650 - 363 lbs/165 kg
Price Burgman $7799
SV650 - $5949
Width Burgman 31.9"/810 mm
SV650 29.3"/745 mm
I know they lie about the weights, but for the sake of argument, let's assume they lie about the scooter as much as they lie about the bike.
Weight Burgman - 518 lbs/235 kg
SV650 - 363 lbs/165 kg
Price Burgman $7799
SV650 - $5949
Width Burgman 31.9"/810 mm
SV650 29.3"/745 mm
I know they lie about the weights, but for the sake of argument, let's assume they lie about the scooter as much as they lie about the bike.
Re: All This Scooter Stuff is Weird, says Gabe...
Gabe, thanks for the explanantion, though personally I kinda had that figured out. Following various scooter enthusiast websites over the last couple years (scooterbbs.com, scootdawg.com, majestyusa.com, burgmanusa.com and the kymcoscooterforum yahoo group), including my personal experience of seeing more scoots on teh road this season than than during the previous 30 seasons combined, I can only conlcude that the scooter market in the USA primed for a period of rapid growth, to include a developing enthusiast community.
I'm 50 and have been riding sicne 1975. I've done my time being injudicious on sportbikes and, annoying the hoi poloi with a loud V-twin, adn now feel like, I have nothing to prove and nobody to impress, and I just wanna ride. ALL THE TIME. on a machine that makes it easy to ride, ALL THE TIME. Scooters - especially the megas - with their many convenient features ( maximum forward fairing coverage, large internal storage, twist-n-go operation, lighter weights than the usual sport-touring offerings) appeal to me as a two wheeled vehivcle that would be far easier to deal with day-to-day than the bike I ride now (1980 yam XS850).
Your previous comment regarding MO doing a comparo of the 4-5 maxiscoots next year is exactly congruent with a suggestion I was going to make in this thread. ;-)
BTW, IMPO, MO is the best online motorcycle review site, bar none. your reviews definitely are - contentwise - competitive with the major print rags, and are better by far than some of the B-level print media.
Having read a few of them, the scooter print media has a long way to go to develop, the cred you folks have.
Gabe, thanks for the explanantion, though personally I kinda had that figured out. Following various scooter enthusiast websites over the last couple years (scooterbbs.com, scootdawg.com, majestyusa.com, burgmanusa.com and the kymcoscooterforum yahoo group), including my personal experience of seeing more scoots on teh road this season than than during the previous 30 seasons combined, I can only conlcude that the scooter market in the USA primed for a period of rapid growth, to include a developing enthusiast community.
I'm 50 and have been riding sicne 1975. I've done my time being injudicious on sportbikes and, annoying the hoi poloi with a loud V-twin, adn now feel like, I have nothing to prove and nobody to impress, and I just wanna ride. ALL THE TIME. on a machine that makes it easy to ride, ALL THE TIME. Scooters - especially the megas - with their many convenient features ( maximum forward fairing coverage, large internal storage, twist-n-go operation, lighter weights than the usual sport-touring offerings) appeal to me as a two wheeled vehivcle that would be far easier to deal with day-to-day than the bike I ride now (1980 yam XS850).
Your previous comment regarding MO doing a comparo of the 4-5 maxiscoots next year is exactly congruent with a suggestion I was going to make in this thread. ;-)
BTW, IMPO, MO is the best online motorcycle review site, bar none. your reviews definitely are - contentwise - competitive with the major print rags, and are better by far than some of the B-level print media.
Having read a few of them, the scooter print media has a long way to go to develop, the cred you folks have.
Times change and so the way people "putt" around on motorcycles. Some people like sportbikes, some like cruisers, but the maxi-scooter is and will fill a niche in the cycle market. They are here to stay and will get more performance orientated and appeal to more people who are looking for something different.
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