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"They actually do quite well as a commuter or sport-tourer or whatever."

As long as you are 5'3" and 135 lbs. I would agree. Anything over that, and they pretty much suck compared to any standard.
So you're saying that since I'm 5'10" and 250lbs I won't fit on these things?
 

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c'mon duke! Two new bikes from Suzuki and Yamaha and you have two bikes that were new LAST year ahead?! I am afraid it is hard to take your opinions seriously after this, given the fact that Suzuki alone has had the best Liter bike since 2001..or is it just not as good this year?

I'm gonna have to wait for motorcycle-usa's shootout to compare to yours...
Just because something is new doesn't make it better.
 

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Bravo Kevin I agree. Would love to see the adjustable thing as well. I am 6' and solid 200 lbs and I can commute on my ZX-6R no problem. However, I do go to the gym every day :)
Course I'm half your age, but I'd like to take you to the gym and see what you've got.
 

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I'm with satanali2 on this one. Not much point in owning one of these bikes unless you go to the track frequently. Frankly I'd rather have something like a 73 Ducati 750SS. I'd ride it just as much but it's waaay cooler and every bit as practical.

For that matter it'd be more fun to own one of those 400cc class sportbikes they sell in Europe than a literbike that would never get out of first gear without getting me arrested.
I think I saw an FZR400 on Craigslist the other day...
 
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