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2010 Honda NT700V vs. Aprilia Mana 850 GT ABS

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I really hope the NT700 sells as well in the US as it does in Europe. Although maybe a bit soul-less, its a good looking, comfortable, good-handling and extremely practical bike for commuting and touring. I want one.
Yeah, neither of these bikes really get the adrenaline flowing, but they are both really competent at being convenient motorcycles. A ZX-10R rider will be totally underwhelmed, but a bike courier might have found perfection.
 

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How does the Mana accomplish it's automatic transmission, is it a CVT type with the variable pulleys and belt? Are the "shifts" preset points on the pulleys?

I love the photo of the two bikes from the front. One of the few things I don't like about my Vee is how far the Givi bags stick out. It's got a fatass for sure. The good thing is that they keep me from splitting lanes, which is illegal here anyway.

The Deauville sure looks like a big scooter in the photos. I'll have to check it out in person at the Honda tent in Daytona.
 

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At first, I was wondering what you were thinking comparing these two bikes. Then, the more I read and the more I saw the photos of the bikes side-by-side, I thought it really was a close comparison. Good job. While I understand the utilitarian nature of the Deauville, its looks totally turn me off. She may be good at everything, but [email protected] she's ugly. I would have to opt for the Aprilia. Then again, I've always liked a gal with a little junk in the trunk!

Nice write-up, guys!
 

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Wouldn't the BMW F800ST be a perfect candidate for the "Sport Touring lite" category? How come it wasn't included?
Depends on your definition of "lite." Also, the ST costs $2500-plus more than these milder tour-lite designs. Finally, its 80 hp at the wheel vs 54 firmly places it in another niche class above the one written about here.

Allow me to share a short version of the shootout you describe: "If performance (engine and chassis) are important to you, the F800ST is the clear winner."

Read about the F800ST compared to the VFR800 here: http://www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/2008-middleweight-sporttouring-shootout-bmw-f800st-vs-honda-vfr800-interceptor-86719.html
 

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Seems like the NT is the clear winner. I wonder if any moto rag hack has mentioned what a wonderful idea it would be if they dropped a FI SuperHawk motor into the frame. That would surely make things more interesting.
 

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Seems like the NT is the clear winner. I wonder if any moto rag hack has mentioned what a wonderful idea it would be if they dropped a FI SuperHawk motor into the frame. That would surely make things more interesting.
90-degree V-twin vs. 52-degree V-twin: there might be "fitment issues". Also, the SuperHawk engine is a good-bit wider.

Not that the idea is without merit - just hard to do and keep the bike the "same".
 

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If only the Dullville had a different engine. Sorry that sounded like an old Buell comment. Remember when everybody said "... if only...".

That picqued my interest. The Mana wind screen isn't available for the Shiver, bags and a center stand are though. I wonder if it would fit. E shopping is fun.
 

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If only the Dullville had a different engine. Sorry that sounded like an old Buell comment. Remember when everybody said "... if only...".

That picqued my interest. The Mana wind screen isn't available for the Shiver, bags and a center stand are though. I wonder if it would fit. E shopping is fun.
Not exactly they way I meant it. More like a 680 and 1000 choice. Like the Shadow line. Two NTs like they sold two DLs. Then let the sales figures drive the marketing.
 

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Ace, no we more or less saw it the same way. Perhaps the Buell comment wasn't the best of choices. A modern 750-1000 engine would make me remember the first time I saw a Euro add for this bike and got all excited.

ps: a 6 speed would've been nice too.
 

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So, Honda and Aprilia are apparently going to compete with the Triumph Tiger and the DL1000 and the Multistrada, except with 700cc and 850cc engines. They should be pricing more like the DL650 and Versys.

However, after seeing Honda's pricing of this and the DN01, the next time I see some Honda owner accusing HD guys of buying over-priced bikes on the basis of some sort of misplaced brand loyalty.... well, it's going to be pretty funny. Can you spell h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e?
 

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This Just In

I went to the local PowerSports for an earl filter for the Vee. They had a brand new NT700V on the showroom floor.

Ugly as a bucket full of assholes. I'm sorry, but it's just a fat, dumb-looking scooter thingy. Is it practical? A good value? Does it ride well? Probably all the above. But it has all the curb appeal of a dried white dog turd lying on the deck by your pool.

They also happened to have a brand new 2010 Z1000. Now THAT is a sick motorcycle. It looks mean as hell and ready to ride over a gaggle of nuns on their way to confession. The fairing gizmos that stick out from the sides are a little much, but it's still dope. I love the riding position, and the view of the tank and LED screen. Neat neat neat.
 

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I went to the local PowerSports for an earl filter for the Vee. They had a brand new NT700V on the showroom floor.

Ugly as a bucket full of assholes. I'm sorry, but it's just a fat, dumb-looking scooter thingy. Is it practical? A good value? Does it ride well? Probably all the above. But it has all the curb appeal of a dried white dog turd lying on the deck by your pool.

They also happened to have a brand new 2010 Z1000. Now THAT is a sick motorcycle. It looks mean as hell and ready to ride over a gaggle of nuns on their way to confession. The fairing gizmos that stick out from the sides are a little much, but it's still dope. I love the riding position, and the view of the tank and LED screen. Neat neat neat.
+1 to everything you said.

I am sooo looking forward to sitting on the new Z1000. Not sure if I would trade the Uly on it, but I'm definitely liking the styling. Kawasaki's star is rising, for sure. Honda's...
 
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