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Mostly agreed, but we gotta give the SG props for its superior low-speed handling. It's weird how Yam and Vic fell short of such an obvious benchmark.
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You know- sometimes my edit button doesn't show up. Why is that?
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Actually the "Edit" function hasn't worked since the site went bonkers a month ago. I click it and it returns an error, on any of several PCs and browsers I use.Uh huh...
You can press the Edit button y'know!
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The Destroyer just backed up a mere earthling. Cool.
When you consider how much shorter the wheelbase is and how much steeper the rake is, the Harley had damned well better make tighter u-turns and handle better at low speeds. The Yamaha and the Vic didn't fall short, the Harley is just a more compact bike all the way around.
Mostly agreed, but we gotta give the SG props for its superior low-speed handling. It's weird how Yam and Vic fell short of such an obvious benchmark.
The Victory has the lowest seat in the test and, if I'm not mistaken, the most rear suspension travel too. When Yamaha was criticized for copying Harley's pushrod engine they claimed they did it to keep the seat height low. Funny how the tallest engine, the lowest seat, and the most rear suspension travel in this comparison are all found on the same bike.
How much chassis stiffness do you think the Harley gives up with that rubber mounted engine? I love to watch my friend's 2010 Street Glide bouncing the front tire off the ground at idle, and that bike is smooth at cruising speeds, but the chassis is easily upset (not as easily as the pre-2009s) and bumpy corners will induce wobbling and an unsettling feeling.
As far as getting the Victory to the performance level of the Star, that's easy. Have a look at this. Costs about $1800 installed.
http://www.lloydz.com/graphs/2010-XC-w-RPW-Slip-ons-VM1-Cams.jpg
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I hear what you are saying Kevin. I have a 1700 Nomad witch has a similar if not more compact frame geometry then the SG and feels just as nimble in the parking lot as my old 600 lb cruiser did. That being said personally I would still trade it for the smoother/sportier riding Victory most any day even if it didn't have the Yamaha crank. I look forward to seeing the same comparo next year with the Vaquero in the mix. I think it would fall short of the Vic's ride and the Yam's power but it's compact handling and standard touring features for the lowest MSRP would certainly put it in the running for best value I think.
Mostly agreed, but we gotta give the SG props for its superior low-speed handling. It's weird how Yam and Vic fell short of such an obvious benchmark.
P.S. On a side not am I the only one that gets annoyed with manufacturers when they put lots of accessories or extra features on loaner bikes that are use for comparisons? Personally if I were editor I would tell them if it doesn't come stock it doesn't get reviewed. But that's probably why my rants are in the comments section and not the article =).
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Pete will be testing the new Vaq mid-Dec, so stay tuned to hear how it stacks up!
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I love a big cruiser myself but the low speed handling has proven difficult for me, having dropped my Star Tour Deluxe 3X in a year. I'm not up on the newer models but being a Yamaha, I'll assume it's the most similar in this comparison.
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Testing Edit, 1 2 3.
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When you come to a stop put your feet down. That solves most dropping issues.
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C'mon, do you have any idea how slippery chrome can get? Jeez, give the guy a break...
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Crazy thing is, it just gets away from ya pretty easily. First time I was on an incline and a dog ran into the front wheel while I was backing & turning. The other 2 were in same gravel littered asphalt parking lot (incline also). I have stepped up my awareness though and have avoided any damage. Bike is so wide it only falls to the highway bar.
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VICTORY iPOD INTEGRATION
The Cross County is actually fully integrated with the iPod. You can access playlists, albums, artists, whatever. Just like the screen of your iPod. That's why they put it in the saddlebag. There's no reason to touch it once its plugged in because you have full control with the Victory. I know this, I sell Victory's and Yamahas.
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The Cross County is actually fully integrated with the iPod. You can access playlists, albums, artists, whatever. Just like the screen of your iPod. That's why they put it in the saddlebag. There's no reason to touch it once its plugged in because you have full control with the Victory. I know this, I sell Victory's and Yamahas.
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