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2012 Victory Cross Country Tour Review

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First off, the Nesses never designed a single bike for Victory. They design paint schemes and develop accessories.

So, let me get this straight...if its Japanese or German it gets knowledgeable, well thought out responses about performance and value. If its American made by anybody but Harley, you call it names and pan it for being a copycat.

I understand the constant comparisons to HD, especially with the CCT, and who can argue that the Highball is nothing more than a marketing ripoff? But I thinks its a little unfair how much crap they do get. Nearly every review, and accompanying reader comments if they're allowed, hang Vic over a barrel for "trying to be like Mike".

Until somebody makes a bagger that hovers and runs on solar power, every touring bike on the road is copying either the UC or the Wing. Period end of discussion.

How long are we going to keep beating Vic up for trying to make something people might actually enjoy and buy?

I can see how the comparisons will come, but I think we should be careful not to be too critical. They're making good bikes. I still would like to see them use more of the Mothership's vast resources, and stray outside the feet forward genre, but I'm not gonna bash them for doing what every other motorcycle manufacturer in the world is doing.
 

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First off, the Nesses never designed a single bike for Victory. They design paint schemes and develop accessories.

So, let me get this straight...if its Japanese or German it gets knowledgeable, well thought out responses about performance and value. If its American made by anybody but Harley, you call it names and pan it for being a copycat.

I understand the constant comparisons to HD, especially with the CCT, and who can argue that the Highball is nothing more than a marketing ripoff? But I thinks its a little unfair how much crap they do get. Nearly every review, and accompanying reader comments if they're allowed, hang Vic over a barrel for "trying to be like Mike".

Until somebody makes a bagger that hovers and runs on solar power, every touring bike on the road is copying either the UC or the Wing. Period end of discussion.

How long are we going to keep beating Vic up for trying to make something people might actually enjoy and buy?

I can see how the comparisons will come, but I think we should be careful not to be too critical. They're making good bikes. I still would like to see them use more of the Mothership's vast resources, and stray outside the feet forward genre, but I'm not gonna bash them for doing what every other motorcycle manufacturer in the world is doing.
Who's "beating up" Victory? I'd buy one before I bought a Harley if I were in the market for a big twin. A friend has a Vegas and the engine at least is a far better power plant than any of Harley's air cooled twins. I've just never cared for the swoopy styling of some of the models. And they ARE reminiscent of Ness's customs whether he likes it or not.
 

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I like them just fine, I think the Vision is pretty cool too. I'd buy one before I bought a cookie cutter Japanese cruiser.

I'm kinda' past Vtwins though, I think if I bought another cruiser style bike it would be a Rocket 3 or more likely a Speedmaster
 

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Until somebody makes a bagger that hovers and runs on solar power, every touring bike on the road is copying either the UC or the Wing. Period end of discussion.

And the Ultra Classic and Gold Wing copied from Moto Guzzi, BMW, Indian, Excelsior Henderson...etc. There is not one feature on either of those two bikes that didn't appear on other bikes before them.
 

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Sorry if I seemed a little riled up in my comments. I had just spent the better part of that morning reading several reviews of the new CCT (and corresponding comments). After reading comments like "I don't think Victory ever sold a bike" or "they should fire Arlen Ness" or "Harley wannabe" ad nauseam, it starts to get on one's nerves.
 

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Well take my advice and ignore them. If you're going to let every dipsh*t with an opinion ruin your day you'll never get anywhere....
 

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Sorry if I seemed a little riled up in my comments. I had just spent the better part of that morning reading several reviews of the new CCT (and corresponding comments). After reading comments like "I don't think Victory ever sold a bike" or "they should fire Arlen Ness" or "Harley wannabe" ad nauseam, it starts to get on one's nerves.
Most people don't realize that Harley did not invent the cruiser look. Users did. Cruisering your bike would get the warranty (such that it was) cancelled. HD tries to pretend they invented the cruiser genre but that's crap. They did offer the first factory cruiser but that was after years of custom jobs by private parties and the movie "Easy Rider". The Japanese followed about a year later.

For that matter no manufacturer invented Baggers or Cafe Racers or Sportbikes or Adventure Tourers or any of the specialized models we see today. They just offered models that they saw people were already making for themselves.
 

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Bashing Victory!

I work for a major multiline dealership, and I've had the opportunity to ride just about every bike on the market with the exception of some BMWs and Ducs. What Victory has done for the cruiser market with the Cross Country was up the ante for anyone else in the market. They succesfully made a cruiser that is lightweight, has plenty of storage, handles like a sport tourer, is rediculously comfortable, makes more power than the competition, and I could keep going forever. Oh yeah, it's American made! And they are now reinvigorating the Indian name...an iconic American image...the original American motorcycle. Maybe you don't like the styling, but your'e just a closed minded fool if you don't like the bike.
 

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I work for a major multiline dealership, and I've had the opportunity to ride just about every bike on the market with the exception of some BMWs and Ducs. What Victory has done for the cruiser market with the Cross Country was up the ante for anyone else in the market. They succesfully made a cruiser that is lightweight, has plenty of storage, handles like a sport tourer, is rediculously comfortable, makes more power than the competition, and I could keep going forever. Oh yeah, it's American made! And they are now reinvigorating the Indian name...an iconic American image...the original American motorcycle. Maybe you don't like the styling, but your'e just a closed minded fool if you don't like the bike.
This advertisement brought to you by the folks at Victory.

I own a Vic (04 Kingpin) and love the bike but I would be hard pressed to trade my HD Roadglide for a Cross Country.
 

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I work for a major multiline dealership, and I've had the opportunity to ride just about every bike on the market with the exception of some BMWs and Ducs. What Victory has done for the cruiser market with the Cross Country was up the ante for anyone else in the market. They succesfully made a cruiser that is lightweight, has plenty of storage, handles like a sport tourer, is rediculously comfortable, makes more power than the competition, and I could keep going forever. Oh yeah, it's American made! And they are now reinvigorating the Indian name...an iconic American image...the original American motorcycle. Maybe you don't like the styling, but your'e just a closed minded fool if you don't like the bike.
Wow, you should change your name to TreyBall or something like that.

Great ad copy Mr. Polaris!
 

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On the Moon maybe. This tank is 845 lbs...DRY!

Don't tell me...those extra pounds just melt away on the road.
" Your wife's light on her feet for such a large woman...."

Anyone bringing up the Indian name should be neutered to keep them from breeding, Anyone actually believing that Indian will ever be a viable corporation producing real world motorcycles should be lobotomized.

They folded in 1953, they're gone. dead. gestorban. en mortu est. c'est mort. muerto. inanimato....

How many more ways can you say it? They flippin' expired!
 

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As for the iPod only bumping through tracks, in my experience you simply hit the menu button and the display will bring up all the sections: artists, albums, songs, playlists. Just like the screen of your iPod.
 

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" Your wife's light on her feet for such a large woman...."

Anyone bringing up the Indian name should be neutered to keep them from breeding, Anyone actually believing that Indian will ever be a viable corporation producing real world motorcycles should be lobotomized.

They folded in 1953, they're gone. dead. gestorban. en mortu est. c'est mort. muerto. inanimato....

How many more ways can you say it? They flippin' expired!
And let's just forget that HD hasn't been bought and resold a handfull of times over the last century.
 
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