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2012 Yamaha Super Tenere Review

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So, does one buy a new Super 10 or a used GS?
 

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A very good review of a very "hot" bike.

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You can probably disable the ABS by pulling it's fuse.

Why the parallel twin, when a 90 degree vee is so much better? 2 balance shafts and special timing to make it sound and feel like a vee? The vee may be longer, but it's thinner, which I'd think matters most if you're standing on the pegs.

I want one.
 

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A very good review of a very "hot" bike.

2 thoughts:
You can probably disable the ABS by pulling it's fuse.

Why the parallel twin, when a 90 degree vee is so much better? 2 balance shafts and special timing to make it sound and feel like a vee? The vee may be longer, but it's thinner, which I'd think matters most if you're standing on the pegs.

I want one.
A 90 degree V would have that front exhaust pipe really close to the ground.
 

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That's a Big Damn Bike, Danger!

Good writeup, very informative. Will somebody please buy me one of these for my 40th? Perhaps all the MO-Fos here can pool their pennies in a praypal donation to help defray the cost of my new Soupa'-T......
 

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I'd go with a used GS. No radiator and used will be all kitted out already. For some reason this thing isnt doing it for me. I keep seeing that side mounted radiator with a root sticking out of it. Add in the fork dive, linked brakes, always on ABS and the always biggie with Yamaha, CASH UP FRONT.
 

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Remember when they use to modify 650 twin Yamahas for dirt track by making them a 270 degree motor? One fires right after the other, like a big single. Betcha didn't know that, did ya?

And Cobb, I tried to send you an IM about the E ATK's but your profile is non-existant in the electronic mess that is MO. What happened?
 

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A very good review of a very "hot" bike.

2 thoughts:
You can probably disable the ABS by pulling it's fuse.

Why the parallel twin, when a 90 degree vee is so much better? 2 balance shafts and special timing to make it sound and feel like a vee? The vee may be longer, but it's thinner, which I'd think matters most if you're standing on the pegs.

I want one.
A V-Twin is also costlier to build (2 cylinder heads, cams, etc), and with one cylinder so far rearward, it's difficult to get the necessary weight on the front wheel with a long-travel front suspension. Build a narrow-angle Vee and you'll again need balancers. And the Tenere has a history with inline-Twins, and it isn't too wide between your feet.
 

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Remember when they use to modify 650 twin Yamahas for dirt track by making them a 270 degree motor? One fires right after the other, like a big single. Betcha didn't know that, did ya?

And Cobb, I tried to send you an IM about the E ATK's but your profile is non-existant in the electronic mess that is MO. What happened?
Yes I did know about Twingles.

I don't know about the PM issue though. Didn't it work last time? Maybe they threw an electronic MOnkey wrench in somewhere? :)
 

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Yes I did know about Twingles.

I don't know about the PM issue though. Didn't it work last time? Maybe they threw an electronic MOnkey wrench in somewhere? :)
Where I come from, a "Twingle" is a Puch (sold in the US as a Sears) 2-stroke that has 2 pistons and one connecting rod. One piston pulls in fuel and air, the other compresses and fires the mix. A guy had one at the FL C2C ride.

Here's a good article on them:

Puch 250 twingle engine « Puch250′s Weblog
 

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Where I come from, a "Twingle" is a Puch (sold in the US as a Sears) 2-stroke that has 2 pistons and one connecting rod. One piston pulls in fuel and air, the other compresses and fires the mix. A guy had one at the FL C2C ride.

Here's a good article on them:

Puch 250 twingle engine « Puch250′s Weblog
Little-known fact: Puch originally made their name (and early fortune!) in the late-1800's when Svenbjord Puch assisted the Canadian Beer-companies in developing a sporting-venue that would allow agressive combatants to display their pugilistic-skills.

As "boxing" had recently been copyrighted by the United States Beer-companies, the companies were forced into a one-upmanship; with their Gladatorial Contestants going at one-another en-masse atop frozen lakes and millponds. And, to further-enhance the percieved danger-factor, they required them to balance themselves upon sharpened knives, turned edgewise to the ice; and then provided each with slender clubs.

To enhance the supposed-deadliness of this Bloodsport, it was decided to add projectile-weaponry to the mix, propelled by the clubs, making it not immediately-lethal to the "players".

This is where Puch came-in: using the latest Abacus-aided-design, he developed a projectile that was SO superior in performance-characteristics that it carries-on today, little-changed since its inception. Although many companies now produce these projectiles, they ALL carry the name "Puck" - in honor of the man that invented them.
 

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"required them to balance themselves upon sharpened knives, turned edgewise to the ice; and then provided each with slender clubs"

Just another day on the MO Forums.
 

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If you want to know the whole Puch history, look at VMX issue 38, it's all there...by yours truly.
 

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The Adventure bike class is definitely heating up, If I was an attention grabbing sluut I would point out that once again I seem to be a trend setter around here bouncing around on my mighty GS......besides Seruzawa of course with the Tiger and ol' Ken what's his face with the Pee-Strom....

For my money I think I'd get the new 800 Tiger however like 12'r pointed out a water cooled Trailie has a certian built in limitation....
 

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Where I come from, a "Twingle" is a Puch (sold in the US as a Sears) 2-stroke that has 2 pistons and one connecting rod. One piston pulls in fuel and air, the other compresses and fires the mix. A guy had one at the FL C2C ride.

Here's a good article on them:

Puch 250 twingle engine « Puch250′s Weblog
I'm surprised I hadn't heard of that one - what a wacky engine! Its audacity is perhaps only exceeded by the Megola.
 

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The Adventure bike class is definitely heating up, If I was an attention grabbing sluut I would point out that once again I seem to be a trend setter around here bouncing around on my mighty GS......besides Seruzawa of course with the Tiger and ol' Ken what's his face with the Pee-Strom....

For my money I think I'd get the new 800 Tiger however like 12'r pointed out a water cooled Trailie has a certian built in limitation....
Or Pulley with th' Uly.....
 

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2012 Yamaha Super Tenere Review

Please discuss the Motorcycle.com article 2012 Yamaha Super Tenere Review in our Motorcycle Forums below. Use the reply button to let others know your comments or feedback on the article. Constructive criticism is always appreciated, along with your thoughts and personal opinions on the bikes and products we have tested.
I'd be careful about borrowing performance figures from the MCN test. I saw the numbers and they are suspect at best. There was an article in a Dutch magazine that showed the Tenere out outperforming the GS in most every performance category, including roll-on performance.

I'm wondering if maybe MCN was in TC mode 1 (default after engine start-up) or maybe this was a top gear roll-on, were the Tenere has a true overdrive. There is no way the roll-on times could have such a split...think about it. I think any reference to their numbers on this bike should be ignored. Here are the numbers from the Dutch magazine. Compare them with MCN and you'll see something wrong.

The dyno figures come close, but the acceleration is a totally different story. Roll-on is only separated by one tenth of a second, but the Tenere is wins that as well. Traction control should be turned-off for acceleration tests. I think MCN failed to do that do to that either by an honest mistake.....or. They seem to be a bit biased when its a euro bike vs Japanese....just saying.

Numbers from left to right are HP, 0-100kph acceleration, 50-150kph roll-on, top speed, wet weight, braking rate (M/s2) and price. It was a mult bike test, but the XTZ is the Super Tenere and the GSA is the BMW. Others tested were the Multi Strada and the Varadero. Doesn't this make more sense?

GSA 113 4.1 s 8.2 215 291 9.35 21.740
MUL 147 3.3 s 7.1 245 238 9.32 21.300
VAR 091 4.3 s 8.3 203 301 9.09 14.490
XTZ 104 3.8 s 8.2 221 276 10.02 16.999
 
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