A good thing gone bad
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Last i checked, the ZX-7 would annihilate a purple CBR600F2.
Are they going to ban 18-wheelers? You know, some of those grumpy truck drivers like to force their way in a lane, running people off of the road and travel at 90mph on the interstate with thousands of times more potentially damaging force than a motorcycle?
No one told the driver of the Civic to swerve out of his lane. Technically speaking, if you hit someone trying to avoid an accident, it's still your fault.
How did they hit another motorcycle after being forced OFF the road?
No one told the driver of the Civic to swerve out of his lane. Technically speaking, if you hit someone trying to avoid an accident, it's still your fault.
How did they hit another motorcycle after being forced OFF the road?
That's nothing, you should see some of the stories around here recently concerning semi-tractor trailer trucks, and the carnage they've wreaked. Trains derailed, vans full of children exploded, caustic chemical spills and whole villages wiped off the map!
I say, ban the trucks from public roads and make them use seperate highways, at their own expense.
I say, ban the trucks from public roads and make them use seperate highways, at their own expense.
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Obviously you didn't understand the whole article. If they ban Ninjas, they ban all motorcycles. Learn to comprehend.
PS The ZX7R you are talking about is the fastest 4 cylinder in World Superbike.
PS The ZX7R you are talking about is the fastest 4 cylinder in World Superbike.
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No it isn't, the Suzuki is faster - next time you watch a SBK race on TV, watch how the GSX-R easily overtakesthe ZX down the straights.
How did they hit another motorcycle after being forced OFF the road?
Sounds like a crash that occurred in the SF Bay Area some years ago. One rider made a blind pass, forcing an oncoming car off the road. The driver ended up in the dirt, overcorrected, crossed the centerline, and hit three riders who were following the first.
Sounds like a crash that occurred in the SF Bay Area some years ago. One rider made a blind pass, forcing an oncoming car off the road. The driver ended up in the dirt, overcorrected, crossed the centerline, and hit three riders who were following the first.
The zx-7R is a piece of crap. Its just that Akira Yanagawa is a badass.
Let me clarify.....the ZX-7R streetbike is crap......hasnt changed since when? 93? close to 500 lbs wet? maybe 110hp at the tire?
The WSBK bike, on the other hand, has been through 10 years of uninterrupted development, and is in the hands of a very capable rider.
Oh, by the way, the 7R is one of my favorite bikes, it has an almost classic look about it that, to me, just oozes character, a rarity for japanese bikes.
You must be an ignorant moron to even try and compare a streetbike to a WSBK bike......its like comparing a regular taurus to a NASCAR car......virtually no parts shared.
Let me clarify.....the ZX-7R streetbike is crap......hasnt changed since when? 93? close to 500 lbs wet? maybe 110hp at the tire?
The WSBK bike, on the other hand, has been through 10 years of uninterrupted development, and is in the hands of a very capable rider.
Oh, by the way, the 7R is one of my favorite bikes, it has an almost classic look about it that, to me, just oozes character, a rarity for japanese bikes.
You must be an ignorant moron to even try and compare a streetbike to a WSBK bike......its like comparing a regular taurus to a NASCAR car......virtually no parts shared.
Such a great argument for lane sharing, there is plenty of room on most 2 lane roads for 2 cars and a motorcycle to be side by side, no swerving or running off the road neccessary. Its just that nobody is trained to handle a vehicle with any amount of precision. WHen in doubt, swerve????
No, actually they aren't going to ban 18 wheelers no matter how dangerous they are in reality or fantasy. Mainly because they have the purpose of transporting goods across the nation, and would be very difficult to replace, while motorcycles have really no purpose that other vehicles cannot fulfill. Can motorcycles get banned? Absolutely.
Take a reading comprehension test there John. The motorcycle in question was in the ONCOMING lane. This was going to be a HEAD_ON collision if the car didn't swerve. So here is a hint. If a motorcycle is traveling at you at 100+ I think you better swerve too.
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And we call those separate highways railroads.... Safe, separated, and far more fuel efficient. No, I'm not in that business.
In my area (Sacramento, CA) there have been a number of huge fatal accidents on I-5 south of downtown during the past year or so caused by speeding semis losing control. No calls for bans yet. It couldn't have anything to do with an effective (bought politicians with campaign contributions) lobby from the trucking industry.
In my area (Sacramento, CA) there have been a number of huge fatal accidents on I-5 south of downtown during the past year or so caused by speeding semis losing control. No calls for bans yet. It couldn't have anything to do with an effective (bought politicians with campaign contributions) lobby from the trucking industry.
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Just another symptom
This kind of report is an obvious product of America's continuing journalism crisis. Take a look at this web page [mgeneral.com] for a particularly insightful analysis of how and why the traditional news media slaughters the facts in order to make money.
For those too tired to click through, an excerpt:
"Journalism is in a state of disorientation brought on by rapid technological change, declining market share, and growing pressure to operate with economic efficiency. In a sometimes desperate search to reclaim audience, the press has moved toward sensationalism, entertainment, and opinion."
The web page goes on to describe the 5 points that characterize the American news media's backslide into mistrust:
[*]A Never-Ending News Cycle, which means in essence that the pursuit of hot headlines surpasses the need for in-depth truth
[*]Sources Controlling The News, which means that the press are being leveraged by those with savvy and influence to serve the purpose of a select few
[*]The Loss Of Gatekeepers, which means that there are now so many "news organizations" that anybody's definition of "news," no matter how deficient, can be packaged and sold
[*]Argument Over Reporting, which means that assertion, commentary, or free-wheeling debate, alone, becomes news -- even if they're grossly unfair and unsubstantiated
[*]A Blockbuster Mentality, which means that the major media will do anything to come up with a story BIG ENOUGH to meld diverse audiences together and thereby give them a bigger (albeit temporary) draw
The worst part of this sorry truth is that American politicians take their cues from our crummy news media and campaign on platforms relating to poorly researched and overly sensationalized "stories." That leaves small special interest groups (like motorcyclists) open to attack by politicians and public opinion based on reporting that has neither been researched, verified, nor passes any kind of reasonable "sniff test" by learned experts.
Scary stuff.
This kind of report is an obvious product of America's continuing journalism crisis. Take a look at this web page [mgeneral.com] for a particularly insightful analysis of how and why the traditional news media slaughters the facts in order to make money.
For those too tired to click through, an excerpt:
"Journalism is in a state of disorientation brought on by rapid technological change, declining market share, and growing pressure to operate with economic efficiency. In a sometimes desperate search to reclaim audience, the press has moved toward sensationalism, entertainment, and opinion."
The web page goes on to describe the 5 points that characterize the American news media's backslide into mistrust:
[*]A Never-Ending News Cycle, which means in essence that the pursuit of hot headlines surpasses the need for in-depth truth
[*]Sources Controlling The News, which means that the press are being leveraged by those with savvy and influence to serve the purpose of a select few
[*]The Loss Of Gatekeepers, which means that there are now so many "news organizations" that anybody's definition of "news," no matter how deficient, can be packaged and sold
[*]Argument Over Reporting, which means that assertion, commentary, or free-wheeling debate, alone, becomes news -- even if they're grossly unfair and unsubstantiated
[*]A Blockbuster Mentality, which means that the major media will do anything to come up with a story BIG ENOUGH to meld diverse audiences together and thereby give them a bigger (albeit temporary) draw
The worst part of this sorry truth is that American politicians take their cues from our crummy news media and campaign on platforms relating to poorly researched and overly sensationalized "stories." That leaves small special interest groups (like motorcyclists) open to attack by politicians and public opinion based on reporting that has neither been researched, verified, nor passes any kind of reasonable "sniff test" by learned experts.
Scary stuff.
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You hit the nail right on the head, buddy. It's funny, when a car driver cuts down a motorcyclist, you never even hear of it, especially how fast the car was traveling. But when some horses ass on a sport bike does something moronic, they make sure to put in exactly what the guy was doing at the time of the accident. And believe me, I'm not defending the guy on the sport bikes. 100 mph in an obviously residential area is really stupid. But , we've all just been pigoen-holed again. Thanks morons, whoever you were. You just made it tough on the rest of us once again. Why don't they give a litmus test before selling these things?
Oh and by the way, this isn't only aimed at sport bike riders, the Cruiser/Harley set, are for the most part, the most underskilled riders I've ever seen.
Oh and by the way, this isn't only aimed at sport bike riders, the Cruiser/Harley set, are for the most part, the most underskilled riders I've ever seen.
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