A Look At Who is Behind the 'New' Indian.
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Good luck to anyone who decides to buy one of these. Did any of you MOfos have a "new" Indian when they went under the last time?
"They also moved Indian's headquarters from California to North Carolina, where they were offered tax incentives and could draw from a NASCAR skilled-labor pool."
I think that's enough incentive not to buy one right there. At least they will save on dental costs.
I think that's enough incentive not to buy one right there. At least they will save on dental costs.
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I was wondering how long it would take someone to catch that. A NASCAR skilled-labor pool is a good thing? How about just having a labor pool that believes that it needs to cooperate with management and build quality products? Think that might be better for them?
Yes..a NASCAR skilled labor pool is a good thing. No matter what you think of NASCAR racing,the quality of fabrication ofm the machines is excellent. And no matter what KPAUL thinks of southern red states,you'll find that the labor pool is more likely to believe in cooperating with management and build quality products than in some of the traditional manufacturing centers. Also some of these states are hungry for industry and are very business friendly.....if i was looking to start a manufacturing business,North carolina would rate high on my location list.
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Yes, but aren't NASCAR workers too dizzy after a weekend of beer and ******* roundyround?
Plus, it takes a couple of days for the ol' hands to heal after pounding on the old lady each Saturday night.
And furthermore you can't get them to work overtime during the WWF season.
Plus, it takes a couple of days for the ol' hands to heal after pounding on the old lady each Saturday night.
And furthermore you can't get them to work overtime during the WWF season.
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Re: A crook who is behind the 'New' Indian.
"They were offered tax incentives and could draw from a NASCAR skilled-labor pool."
Um, won't the skilled NASCAR pool people be working on, err, "cars"?
Why not move the plant to Bergen County, New Jersey, where they could draw on the skilled wise-guy labor pool.
"you gonna love the new Indian, or i'll bustya head open."
"They were offered tax incentives and could draw from a NASCAR skilled-labor pool."
Um, won't the skilled NASCAR pool people be working on, err, "cars"?
Why not move the plant to Bergen County, New Jersey, where they could draw on the skilled wise-guy labor pool.
"you gonna love the new Indian, or i'll bustya head open."
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There's that swanky new E-H plant sitting there in Minnesota gathering dust Why don't they use that, it's all set up for cranking out rolling turds already. Just paint the name on the side of the tank and give everyone new coveralls....
save 'em a fortune.
save 'em a fortune.
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First thought: Oh, not again....
Second: Harvard MBAs. Okay, not your first pick for two guys to run a bike company. (Wingtips aren't normal bike wear.) Then again, maybe they've got a bit more of a grip on things than, say, the Hanlon bros.
Third: Well, if they did good with Chris-Craft, then maybe this has potential. Do the lessons transfer from boat to bike? Can they make this all relevant?
Fourth: Do they need an advisor? I can send a resume.
Second: Harvard MBAs. Okay, not your first pick for two guys to run a bike company. (Wingtips aren't normal bike wear.) Then again, maybe they've got a bit more of a grip on things than, say, the Hanlon bros.
Third: Well, if they did good with Chris-Craft, then maybe this has potential. Do the lessons transfer from boat to bike? Can they make this all relevant?
Fourth: Do they need an advisor? I can send a resume.
Anybody for another glass.......
Anybody for another glass.......
..... of HaterAid??? C'mon guys! All this Negativity! We have an chance that they are going to come outwith some truly unique stuff. Maybe they will, maybe they won't, but it's never a bad thing when you have another company stepping in to the fray, ESPECIALLY when they will NEED to diferentiate themselves significantly in order to succeed.
I think a small displacement I-4 straight mounted (Not that I'm Homophobic......) engine on a cafe-racer style would be a realy cool model. Look what Triumph and Ducati have tapped into with the Retro thing....
Might be cool!
Rob
(aka: The Ray of F***ing Sunshine)
Anybody for another glass.......
..... of HaterAid??? C'mon guys! All this Negativity! We have an chance that they are going to come outwith some truly unique stuff. Maybe they will, maybe they won't, but it's never a bad thing when you have another company stepping in to the fray, ESPECIALLY when they will NEED to diferentiate themselves significantly in order to succeed.
I think a small displacement I-4 straight mounted (Not that I'm Homophobic......) engine on a cafe-racer style would be a realy cool model. Look what Triumph and Ducati have tapped into with the Retro thing....
Might be cool!
Rob
(aka: The Ray of F***ing Sunshine)
Re: THE BEST INDIAN EVER MADE
The best Indian ever made was the Kawasaki Drifter (1500 or 800, take your pick).
It looked even better than the originals that came from the Wigwam in Springfield, and it was definitely better in performance, ease of maintenance, and reliability than the originals (and also better than any of the latter-day clone bikes).
The Kawasaki Drifters were never hot sellers, so you can probably pick up one for a very reasonable price. The Vulcan 1500 engine is good for 100,000+ miles, so you could keep a Drifter long enough for it to be a classic in its own right.
If you're in love with the authentic 1940s look, the first year or two of the Drifter 1500 is the choice. It came with matte silver engine and powder-coated black forks and other bits that today would be chromed, and it was painted an authentic maroon. Subsequent years saw the black bits replaced with chrome, and brighter colors were offered. You might also find a maroon and black first-year model that has been painted a brighter color.
The best Indian ever made was the Kawasaki Drifter (1500 or 800, take your pick).
It looked even better than the originals that came from the Wigwam in Springfield, and it was definitely better in performance, ease of maintenance, and reliability than the originals (and also better than any of the latter-day clone bikes).
The Kawasaki Drifters were never hot sellers, so you can probably pick up one for a very reasonable price. The Vulcan 1500 engine is good for 100,000+ miles, so you could keep a Drifter long enough for it to be a classic in its own right.
If you're in love with the authentic 1940s look, the first year or two of the Drifter 1500 is the choice. It came with matte silver engine and powder-coated black forks and other bits that today would be chromed, and it was painted an authentic maroon. Subsequent years saw the black bits replaced with chrome, and brighter colors were offered. You might also find a maroon and black first-year model that has been painted a brighter color.
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I was hoping the last run would have worked for Indian. I'm not into the big sweeping fenders but I like the name and the industry offering choices.
I thing the last version of the Scout was as cool as the entire dyna series.
Do we have to call them "Native American Cycles" or is it the "I Word" now?
I thing the last version of the Scout was as cool as the entire dyna series.
Do we have to call them "Native American Cycles" or is it the "I Word" now?
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Stellican is an Investment capital company just like the Texas investors that revived Ducati. Just because they are all business doesn't mean they are souless. These guys will find the best people to do the job and bring the brand back to life.
I was one of the original people talking to Dave Wright (before he departed) about the comeback. They are talking to everyone to make sure that the same mistakes are not repeated. They will have updated designs of the bike but the motor-trans set up is going to start with the S&S designed power 100 motor that only made it one year on production. THey are also interested in bringing back the inline 4 (the last time I checked). If they build in small number the first few years and actually put money into R&D it's possible they may get it right. Unlike the previous owners who were complete dumbasses.
I was one of the original people talking to Dave Wright (before he departed) about the comeback. They are talking to everyone to make sure that the same mistakes are not repeated. They will have updated designs of the bike but the motor-trans set up is going to start with the S&S designed power 100 motor that only made it one year on production. THey are also interested in bringing back the inline 4 (the last time I checked). If they build in small number the first few years and actually put money into R&D it's possible they may get it right. Unlike the previous owners who were complete dumbasses.
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