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I think the matter should end here. Whether the AMA ruling was fair or not, I think it would seriously hurt the sport of racing (any form of motor racing) if racers start pressing charges outside the sport. It should be the ama's perorgative to take the matter up with law enforcement if need be. But If racers started suing each other, where will it all end.
 

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I'm gonna get my crew.

'AMA Pro Racing continues to investigate the circumstances surrounding the actions of each rider’s crew members following the incident.'

Anybody know anything about this part? Was there a brawl? I know I'll be glued to the tube tonight for TWT on Speed.
 

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I dont think we are talking about a civil suit. What Yates did constitutes assault. I think all Fania would have to do is call the local police down in Daytona and say he wanted to press charges. The prosecution wouldn't have a tough time finding evidence. Yates is on some thin ice. Whatever the AMA decides, it'd be real tough to race from jail.
 

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In a related note...

... EA Sports announced today that their forthcoming AMA Superbike video game will feature lifelike kicks, punches, headbutts, and signature moves like Fania's menacing "suck this, you Factory Beyotch" gesture.

Pre-orders are already dwarfing the sales of more sedate titles such as Moto GP which merely include off-camera antics such as Rossi and Biaggi *****slapping one another in the locker room.
 

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It is the responsibility for the AMA to determine if charges should be filed, what? The AMA is not the judge of what should be inforced under the law or not. A crime was committed and thus them being a law abiding group should inform the police of the criminal behavior. Fighting has nothing to do with MC racing. They need to stop this in the budd.



As far as doing bad for the sport, what will do bad for the sport is Yates like actions continueing. The AMA needs to show that this is UNACCEPTABLE PERIOD!!!!!!
 

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I went to a hockey game the other night and a motorcycle race broke out. TA DA DUM! thank you, tip your waitresses... WHAT A DRAB LITTLE WORLD IT HAS BECOME. RACING NEEDS MORE ASS-KICKINGS. SO DOES THE U.S. The proper response to half the stupid stuff that people do here is a shot in the chops. Tell me George Bush wouldn't have benefitted at some point from a friendly barroom butt-kicking. Spare the rod and spoil the child I say.
 

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Perhaps the occasional pugilistic response to stupidity is ok, but I think the way Yates handled it looked like a temper tantrum. If you really want to pound someone do it later out of the view of the cameras and off the track.
 

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Yates needs more than one race to really get his attention. What a joke- and 5 grand? That is not enough money to "show how serious" this was. Wasn't it Yates that got mad last year and laid down on the track so they would stop a race? I mean they are supposed to be professionals and this guy is acting like a 2 yr old throwing a fit. Besides it looked to me like the lapper was holding his line and Yates came in on him, so why was he mad at him anyway? Compare this to how Miguel Duhamel behaved last year after crashing into a lapper. He got up and made sure the guy was ok and they got off the track. I know getting around the lappers is a problem, but that is part of racing...you try to get tricky and go around the guy where he is not expecting it and sometimes you make it and sometimes you don't. You really cant blame Fania unless he was not holding his line.

My buddy told me that Yoshimura Suzuki fined him $20,000 as well...anyone else heard that? I think that Fania showed remarkable restraint. If some jackass drop kicked me and then head butted me while I was walking away I think I would have been inclined to give him some free dental work.
 

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you got to see this from a racers perspective. the ama just gave him the death penalty. they just took him out of the championship, and hit him were it hurts the pro racer the most. in the points if ends up high the higbee in the final oints race ill be surprised. he has money. he would never go to jail, or be found guilty. but he rep as a good racer has benn seriously messed up
 

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on second thought. hmmm.... he has a point





what happend to men just beating each otheres asses when we got pissed? *****, thats how it is everywear else. its racing, not ballet. testosterone is dripping fromthis sport
 

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In all racing I know of and am familiar with, whether 2 or 4 wheels, it is the sole responsibility of the overtaking rider to take appropriate action to avoind a collision.

Yates, in my viewing of the race footage, (multiple times (thanks TIVO)) it seems fairly clear (to me) that Yates violated this rule. (By the way I think Yates is a great racer.)



The action that Yates took after the collison only seems to verify that he was angry - but he should have been angry at himself for his miscue, NOT Fania. Not once but twice did Yates assault Fania (I am a former prosecutor and have seen lots of similar anger driven actions end up in criminal court)



The penalty is relatively light. I think a more appropriate action would have been to suspend Yates from one meet and put him on probation for 5 additional meets. Make him think about consequences before he acts.

Paul Tracy in CART (or whatever it is called these days) Juan Montoya in F1 and Michael Andretti have all been put on probation for rought driving, the problem was cured.

Ask yourself; "What do you think the result would have been had Fania done the same acts to Yates?" Think about it.



Thanks for reading.



Rick in Portland Oregon
 

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Good reference to hockey. Timing is everything in life and Yates may just find that out. At a hockey game last night, one player sucker punched the other from behind then jumped on him, riding him head-first into the ice. The attacked player received a concussion, deep facial lacerations and a BROKEN NECK. Looks like some criminal charges will be forthcoming. Yates helmeted-head-butt and kicking tirade could have caused serious injury. Yates needs to be talking to his attorney in anticipation of the hockey fall out. And I don't wish him well.
 
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