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I don't really know the details of this, but I do know that you'd be hard-pressed to beat a Team Obsolete bike. I understand that there is a very fine line between what the motor looks like outside and what's inside. Complete replica motors are being made of billit aluminum and with the metals available today you could probably get more rpm and more power out of them. So, what's the point of trying to race and compete on period machinery, when it's been so updated as to not resemble what came out of the factory race shop?? Why doesn't Bob I. just participate in modern racing like everyone else instead of trying to manipulate the AHRMA??



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So, vintage racing is going the way of all racing, eh? It all starts as a group of enthusiasts who start racing around on bikes they can afford. It gets popular and some racing association gets underway. Soon the people with more money are modifying the bikes and the people who started the whole thing because it was cheap are cut out.



 

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Don't know the details. Don't want to. Stuff happens and egos continue to rage. Please save me yet another soap opera. It is not the end of the world. Many lawsuits are emotion driven, (he said after 20+ yrs in pratice.) Get over it; move on. Besides it's Ch 11 (reorg) not 7 (liquidation).



 

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Actually,the truth in this case is very different.Ianucci was one of AHRMA's founders.he parted ways(very inamicably) with AHRMA's then leadrrship in the mid 90's and the fight has been raging ever since. Since he is rich and a lawyer and AHRMA is a nonprofit member owned org,his pockets are deeper. I have talked to several AHRMA trustees and as of now plans are to run a complete program in 2007.
 

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Easy for you to say ,but as someone whose primary non-work/family activity is vintage racing,its important to me. Im the kind of low buck/in it for the fun kinda guy who gets hurt by this type of crap. The big dollar guys who start this crap can usually find another sandbox to play in---or start their own.
 

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Back in the Jurrassic, some of us young dummies used to go over to Lake Berryessa take a few refreshments, and jump off this rock. The lake was fairly new then, and not too many people knew about it. Before long, the place was crawling with drunken assholes, and people started diving head first into water that wasn't all that deep in some spots. People got up in arms about it, and it eventually became a law enforcement problem.Maybe the Vinatage folks should give up on winning any races, develop a Secret Handshake for those who are truly running vintage machinery, and just ignore the 'winners' of the race. At race end, everyone could go over and congratulate the 9th place finisher. ignoring all those with more money than love of vintage machinery. Whenever anything gets popular, it usually becomes a victim of it's own sucess. Sounds like that's what's happening here.
 

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Hey, it's racing. Competitive bastards compete at everything, including who runs the races. If the Indy 500 could be destoryed then let's not be surpised that a semi pro series which nobody watches is on it's death bed.
 

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So is this what happened here Dangerous? Is there any site or article that could tell us what really happened? I believe MO should look into this. I mean these guys are all day just drinking champagne and chatting up high class call girls supplied by motorcycle manufacturers in the faint hope of scoring an extra point in a comparo.



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I have no idea. I just know that a lot of fun activities that a small group of people participate in has a family kind of feel to it, and it never survives if what they're doing gets too popular. I wonder if the guy in 'World's Fastest Indian' were around today, if anyone would have made room for him to compete. The town of Carmel was founded by a bunch of bohemians who would be shunned if they lived there now, even if they could afford it.
 
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