AMA Fights CA Organ Donor Bill
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I sent ole' John a love letter and you can too. No need to use snail mail, and the AMA site only allows CA residents to send from there. A small amount of looking and I came up with:
[email protected]
I sent him a lovely note as to what body orafice he can place his amendment, and what my preferred lubrication method would be. In reality I was very restrained in the letter, but I'm sure he got my point. Make sure he gets YOUR point. Write today. Not tomorrow.
[email protected]
I sent him a lovely note as to what body orafice he can place his amendment, and what my preferred lubrication method would be. In reality I was very restrained in the letter, but I'm sure he got my point. Make sure he gets YOUR point. Write today. Not tomorrow.
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Not a bad idea
I would expand the provision to allow harvesting of organs from cagers who don't use seat belts. What the hell does it matter, they're dead! I think its time we all get over our attachment to lifeless chunks of meat. They contribute to the second worst use of land after golf courses: cemeteries.
I would expand the provision to allow harvesting of organs from cagers who don't use seat belts. What the hell does it matter, they're dead! I think its time we all get over our attachment to lifeless chunks of meat. They contribute to the second worst use of land after golf courses: cemeteries.
email sent
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Re: AMA Fights CA Organ Donor Bill (Score: 1)
by jeburk on Thursday, January 08 @ 19:19:09 PST
You have to be one crass bastard to come up with that idea, let alone try to make it a law.
I agree wholeheartedly. I admit that I do not have the stomach to be a con-man or a politician like yourself. Besides, I don't have the sufficient qualifications of ignorance; arrogance; gross incompetence; mental retardation; irrationality; demagoguery; gross hypocrisy; disdain; egomania and be a "crass bastard" for the job, MUCH less for a democrat.
Since you care so much for others, do everybody a favor and donate your organs now, and i mean NOW. I mean, it makes perfect utilitarian sense. With your healthy body (i assume) you may be able to save 2-3 lives, plus others who could recover from injuries. Since your brain is useless anyway, there is no loss to society. It's a win-win situation.
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Re: AMA Fights CA Organ Donor Bill (Score: 1)
by jeburk on Thursday, January 08 @ 19:19:09 PST
You have to be one crass bastard to come up with that idea, let alone try to make it a law.
I agree wholeheartedly. I admit that I do not have the stomach to be a con-man or a politician like yourself. Besides, I don't have the sufficient qualifications of ignorance; arrogance; gross incompetence; mental retardation; irrationality; demagoguery; gross hypocrisy; disdain; egomania and be a "crass bastard" for the job, MUCH less for a democrat.
Since you care so much for others, do everybody a favor and donate your organs now, and i mean NOW. I mean, it makes perfect utilitarian sense. With your healthy body (i assume) you may be able to save 2-3 lives, plus others who could recover from injuries. Since your brain is useless anyway, there is no loss to society. It's a win-win situation.
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Re: email sent
(knock knock)
(footsteps... door opening)
MAN: Good afternoon. Is this the residence of John Longville?
WOMAN: He's watching the telly.
MAN: He signed up as an organ donor and we're here to get his liver.
(footsteps)
LONGVILLE: Hey, whatya doin' mate? Lemme go!
MAN: John Longville, you've signed up as an organ donor and we are here to get your liver.
LONGVILLE: But I'm not done with it!
MAN: Sorry, you did sign this organ donor card, did you not?
LONGVILLE: Well, yes, but........
(Sound of gas powered chain saw)
LONGVILLE: AAAAHHHHHHHHH... (cuts off abruptly).
(knock knock)
(footsteps... door opening)
MAN: Good afternoon. Is this the residence of John Longville?
WOMAN: He's watching the telly.
MAN: He signed up as an organ donor and we're here to get his liver.
(footsteps)
LONGVILLE: Hey, whatya doin' mate? Lemme go!
MAN: John Longville, you've signed up as an organ donor and we are here to get your liver.
LONGVILLE: But I'm not done with it!
MAN: Sorry, you did sign this organ donor card, did you not?
LONGVILLE: Well, yes, but........
(Sound of gas powered chain saw)
LONGVILLE: AAAAHHHHHHHHH... (cuts off abruptly).
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What goes around, comes around.
Well Well Well. Just when the AMA needs some political capital to fight this it doesn't have any. Why?
[*] When the AMA spends all of its time fighting against helmet laws it loses valuable political capital and credibility.
[*]I am sure if Baby Boomers (the worst generation as opposed to the greatest generation) would stop fighting helmet laws, this would never came up
If you can't do the time (donate your organs) then don't do the crime (ride without a helmet).
Us Gen Xers have grown up with helmets: snow boarding, roller blading, skate boarding, bicycling, etc. Time for baby boomers to grow up.
I told you so
KPaul
Motorcycle Prophet.
Well Well Well. Just when the AMA needs some political capital to fight this it doesn't have any. Why?
[*] When the AMA spends all of its time fighting against helmet laws it loses valuable political capital and credibility.
[*]I am sure if Baby Boomers (the worst generation as opposed to the greatest generation) would stop fighting helmet laws, this would never came up
If you can't do the time (donate your organs) then don't do the crime (ride without a helmet).
Us Gen Xers have grown up with helmets: snow boarding, roller blading, skate boarding, bicycling, etc. Time for baby boomers to grow up.
I told you so
KPaul
Motorcycle Prophet.
Re: What goes around, comes around.
right on the money! This may be a stupid questions, but do dead people have rights? If they do, those rights certainly shouldn't superceed those of the living.
You can't take anything with you (that is if you believe we go anywhere after death). Might as well leave something behind that others will greatly benifit from. Selfish in life (riding without a helmet, promoting a dangerouse riding style to the young and impressionables), selfish in death I guess.
right on the money! This may be a stupid questions, but do dead people have rights? If they do, those rights certainly shouldn't superceed those of the living.
You can't take anything with you (that is if you believe we go anywhere after death). Might as well leave something behind that others will greatly benifit from. Selfish in life (riding without a helmet, promoting a dangerouse riding style to the young and impressionables), selfish in death I guess.
Sometimes the thing most obvious is the hardest to see. Well said, kawa'ki.
Ain't politics grand?!?
If it isn't our "representatives" trying to protect us from ourselves (or in this case mandated organ theft) it is advocate groups who are really nothing less than terrorist organizations. This report was just released from a group calling themselves the, Advocates for Highway and Auto Safety
Read that last quote from the Advocates' President Stone and tell me it doesn't smell like some sort of ji'had.
Ain't politics grand?!?
If it isn't our "representatives" trying to protect us from ourselves (or in this case mandated organ theft) it is advocate groups who are really nothing less than terrorist organizations. This report was just released from a group calling themselves the, Advocates for Highway and Auto Safety
Read that last quote from the Advocates' President Stone and tell me it doesn't smell like some sort of ji'had.
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You know you're in trouble.....
....when the clowns always want the Federal Govt to step in and mandate 55 mph national speed limits and national seat belt laws.
These clowns have to most voluminous load of misleading statistics since the IIHS. In a 2 minute perusal I detected at least 5 outright lies on their site. They rival the smoking-nazis.
The usual for do-gooders. We're supposed to forgive their totalitarianism and false propaganda because they claim to have "good intentions".
....when the clowns always want the Federal Govt to step in and mandate 55 mph national speed limits and national seat belt laws.
These clowns have to most voluminous load of misleading statistics since the IIHS. In a 2 minute perusal I detected at least 5 outright lies on their site. They rival the smoking-nazis.
The usual for do-gooders. We're supposed to forgive their totalitarianism and false propaganda because they claim to have "good intentions".
Not to be vulgar, but if anyone supports violating the remains of the deceased to harvest their organs without explicit prior consent, then they apparently wouldn't have a problem with necrophilia either. After all, they're dead, right? Why should it matter what happens to them?
Akin to the classic Monty Python sketch mentioned further above is the very real possibility of intentional attempts to run unhelmeted riders off the road to harvest their organs. Remember the insurance scam a few years ago where corrupt doctors were telling patients to go out & cause accidents so they could make bogus claims of whiplash & other maladies? Kinda backfired when a few innocent bystanders were inadvertantly killed.
As someone else mentioned, the amendment may just be an attempt to kill the original proposal. Hopefully the amendment is killed.
Akin to the classic Monty Python sketch mentioned further above is the very real possibility of intentional attempts to run unhelmeted riders off the road to harvest their organs. Remember the insurance scam a few years ago where corrupt doctors were telling patients to go out & cause accidents so they could make bogus claims of whiplash & other maladies? Kinda backfired when a few innocent bystanders were inadvertantly killed.
As someone else mentioned, the amendment may just be an attempt to kill the original proposal. Hopefully the amendment is killed.
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Re: What goes around, comes around.
No I think a lot of people have this pegged right, the guy wants to defeat the bill so he adds the amendment. I am sorry I don't get folks desire to ride without a helmet. Most of us younger folks don't get the urge like the gray-pony tail Harley crowd do. But we weren't at Woodstock, Vietnam, or lived through Watergate, JFK, RFK, and MLK assanations, so we don't know where these guys are coming from.
No I think a lot of people have this pegged right, the guy wants to defeat the bill so he adds the amendment. I am sorry I don't get folks desire to ride without a helmet. Most of us younger folks don't get the urge like the gray-pony tail Harley crowd do. But we weren't at Woodstock, Vietnam, or lived through Watergate, JFK, RFK, and MLK assanations, so we don't know where these guys are coming from.
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Re: You know you're in trouble.....
The quote from the grieving Tennesse family says it all. "If Tennesse had a seatbelt law then junior would have known he had to buckle up and he'd still be with us"
How about if junior had half a brain he'd have worn a seatbelt, or if junior's family had really cared they'd have made sure he wore his seatbelt everytime he got in a car from the time he was born. Why does something have to be a law before someone uses the safety equipment thats available?
There's a class of people that deem themselves smarter than everyone else, or devinely inspired to tell everyone else how to live. Issues like seatbelts and helmets are really just common sense, the same as smoking. You'd have to be already brain dead not to know that not wearing a seatbelt or helmet is going to increase your chance of getting injured in an accident. Just the same as smoking, drinking like a fish and eating crappy junk food is going to impact your health. The fact is I'm an intelligent, responsible adult and if I chose to do any of these things (which I don't) It's my choice, and I don't need advice or instruction from some anal-retentive busybody with an overabundance of self worth.
The quote from the grieving Tennesse family says it all. "If Tennesse had a seatbelt law then junior would have known he had to buckle up and he'd still be with us"
How about if junior had half a brain he'd have worn a seatbelt, or if junior's family had really cared they'd have made sure he wore his seatbelt everytime he got in a car from the time he was born. Why does something have to be a law before someone uses the safety equipment thats available?
There's a class of people that deem themselves smarter than everyone else, or devinely inspired to tell everyone else how to live. Issues like seatbelts and helmets are really just common sense, the same as smoking. You'd have to be already brain dead not to know that not wearing a seatbelt or helmet is going to increase your chance of getting injured in an accident. Just the same as smoking, drinking like a fish and eating crappy junk food is going to impact your health. The fact is I'm an intelligent, responsible adult and if I chose to do any of these things (which I don't) It's my choice, and I don't need advice or instruction from some anal-retentive busybody with an overabundance of self worth.
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