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How is the ZX7 competitive?
Don't get me wrong, I have always liked Kawasakis (my first bike). But how is a bike that old still capable of winning races?
I would love to see Ben on a faster bike!
Don't get me wrong, I have always liked Kawasakis (my first bike). But how is a bike that old still capable of winning races?
I would love to see Ben on a faster bike!
Re: How is the ZX7 competitive?
I think ZX-7R forms a good basis for a superbike.. (strong frame, etc..) The engine has been developed over the year. But as a street bike, it is too heavy. For in the superbike racing, a lot of the stuff are taken off or replaced with the lighter components. So it is quite different from a street going ZX-7R.
I think the superbike transformation narrows the gap between say, ZX-7R and GSX-R. Since they both have to meet the minimum weight.
I think ZX-7R forms a good basis for a superbike.. (strong frame, etc..) The engine has been developed over the year. But as a street bike, it is too heavy. For in the superbike racing, a lot of the stuff are taken off or replaced with the lighter components. So it is quite different from a street going ZX-7R.
I think the superbike transformation narrows the gap between say, ZX-7R and GSX-R. Since they both have to meet the minimum weight.
Well it's about time M.O. puts this on there web site. I heard about the fine this morning. Can you guys speed up a little here? You guys are always last when it comes time to post this stuff like this. Mladin is fast as hell on a bike but he is one dump ass. It was funny how Mladin was talk sh!t about Bostrom and then he gets beat by him. That had to make him feel like a real dumb ass. M.O. whats up with your site? It takes forever for me to get on it. You guys need a new server. They are always jacken your site up.
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Mladin isn't he so gracious????
HA HA HA!! read my comments in the "LUCKY MLADIN" article from last week. You'll understand why this does not surprize me what so ever. I have a feeling that the User "BBD_RACING" will be able to explain Mat Mladins gracious behavior to all of us though. Mat will never change and he was only overly nice for the cameras at elkhart lake because something was really funky about that red flag jamie hacking gave him as a gift. Keep it up Mat HA HA HA!! your doing exactly as I predicted you would.
HA HA HA!! read my comments in the "LUCKY MLADIN" article from last week. You'll understand why this does not surprize me what so ever. I have a feeling that the User "BBD_RACING" will be able to explain Mat Mladins gracious behavior to all of us though. Mat will never change and he was only overly nice for the cameras at elkhart lake because something was really funky about that red flag jamie hacking gave him as a gift. Keep it up Mat HA HA HA!! your doing exactly as I predicted you would.
The AMA sucks. Mladin can say anything he wants to, this is supposed to be a free country. I hope Mladin gets out of here and goes to World Superbike next year instead of wasting his talents in this God forsaken hellhole.
Mladin should answer the rest of the questions this year at press conferences by saying, "I have nothing to say." Since he is going to win the championship again, that will ruin the AMA happy shiny PR machine.
Mladin should answer the rest of the questions this year at press conferences by saying, "I have nothing to say." Since he is going to win the championship again, that will ruin the AMA happy shiny PR machine.
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Check out the report on www.amasuperbike.com... it was all reported there for the most part. I don't think they edited much if anything out.
I don't have an opinion on Mat as a person one way or the other... I don't know him and have never met him, so I don't feel qualified to say "he's a jerk" or "he's a great guy".
My only angle would be to evaluate what his complaints were about the track since the guy is a damned good racer; he probably does know quite a bit about assessing a track's safety. If the two-time defending champ of the series says the track is un-safe, and others tend to agree (while hemming and hawing, granted), then MAYBE something really is wrong!
As to whether improvements have been made, that is very easy to verify. If the track has lied about improvements, then perhaps the AMA should fine them (or of course, since that's not possible in a literal sense, they should take some kind of action to penalize the track).
I don't know how many of us would go to work every day if there was all of the sudden a greater than normal risk of serious injury or worse. "Greater than normal risk" is a very subjective term, yes, but I think we know what that means.
I don't necessarily agree with the profanity-laced tirade (kids may have heard it, and like it or not, kids look up to these guys as heros)... BUT, I certainly support the guy's right to free speech and the ability to air his professional grievances when his life/limb is at stake.
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I don't have an opinion on Mat as a person one way or the other... I don't know him and have never met him, so I don't feel qualified to say "he's a jerk" or "he's a great guy".
My only angle would be to evaluate what his complaints were about the track since the guy is a damned good racer; he probably does know quite a bit about assessing a track's safety. If the two-time defending champ of the series says the track is un-safe, and others tend to agree (while hemming and hawing, granted), then MAYBE something really is wrong!
As to whether improvements have been made, that is very easy to verify. If the track has lied about improvements, then perhaps the AMA should fine them (or of course, since that's not possible in a literal sense, they should take some kind of action to penalize the track).
I don't know how many of us would go to work every day if there was all of the sudden a greater than normal risk of serious injury or worse. "Greater than normal risk" is a very subjective term, yes, but I think we know what that means.
I don't necessarily agree with the profanity-laced tirade (kids may have heard it, and like it or not, kids look up to these guys as heros)... BUT, I certainly support the guy's right to free speech and the ability to air his professional grievances when his life/limb is at stake.
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Explaining Mat is one thing, explaining your total lack of grammatical skills is another. did you ever make it out of 8th grade?
Explaining Mat is one thing, explaining your total lack of grammatical skills is another. did you ever make it out of 8th grade?
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This Meade guy sounds like an utter ass from the press conference transcript. Props to Mat
Report of press conference
Report of press conference
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Let's hear from the racers out there - read the whole deal on amasuperbike.com and come back to tell your impression.
Just watching the race scared the hell out of me. There is no way I'd race at that track. As Mat said, there is only one turn in the whole place where a fall doesn't result in hitting a concrete wall.
1) Mat's comments were right and the AMA needs to get its safety head out of its butt.
2) Do any of us doubt that the people in the press misquote people for sensationalism? Can't we all see how that would be really irritating when the subject is life and death?
3) You will note that Mat was asked about things the moment he got off the bike after qualifying. For those of you who don't race, let me explain: When you get off the track, your emotions are pretty high. I've seen normally calm guys need five minutes to return from Atilla the Hun Mode. Hence, he vented. Also note that Eric didn't dispute it and took it in stride because he's been there.
I am sick of hearing people who can't hold a candle to these guys nit picking them. I've raced just enough to really admire these guys. I'll never go as fast on a Superbike as they'd go on a GS500, but I sure love watching them spin their craft.
Just watching the race scared the hell out of me. There is no way I'd race at that track. As Mat said, there is only one turn in the whole place where a fall doesn't result in hitting a concrete wall.
1) Mat's comments were right and the AMA needs to get its safety head out of its butt.
2) Do any of us doubt that the people in the press misquote people for sensationalism? Can't we all see how that would be really irritating when the subject is life and death?
3) You will note that Mat was asked about things the moment he got off the bike after qualifying. For those of you who don't race, let me explain: When you get off the track, your emotions are pretty high. I've seen normally calm guys need five minutes to return from Atilla the Hun Mode. Hence, he vented. Also note that Eric didn't dispute it and took it in stride because he's been there.
I am sick of hearing people who can't hold a candle to these guys nit picking them. I've raced just enough to really admire these guys. I'll never go as fast on a Superbike as they'd go on a GS500, but I sure love watching them spin their craft.
Re: God forsaken hellhole!?!
955tri, don't fret over BammBamm. He's got something against the AMA (not really sure what, exactly, but he bashes them at every possible opportunity). So, he was probably referring to the AMA superbike series, rather than the whole U.S. of A.
Either way, part of the cost of freedom is tolerance. Which doesn't explain BammBamm's confusion between "freedom from censorship" and "freedom from consequences", but that's a separate issue.
955tri, don't fret over BammBamm. He's got something against the AMA (not really sure what, exactly, but he bashes them at every possible opportunity). So, he was probably referring to the AMA superbike series, rather than the whole U.S. of A.
Either way, part of the cost of freedom is tolerance. Which doesn't explain BammBamm's confusion between "freedom from censorship" and "freedom from consequences", but that's a separate issue.
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Ahem. If you intend to take someone to task because of his or her lack of grammatical skills, don't you suppose you should check to make sure you are properly capitalizing the beginning of a sentence?
Kinda makes you look like an idiot, you know.
Ahem. If you intend to take someone to task because of his or her lack of grammatical skills, don't you suppose you should check to make sure you are properly capitalizing the beginning of a sentence?
Kinda makes you look like an idiot, you know.
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Though I busted your chops earlier (about sentence capitalization), I have to step in here and, for the most part, agree with you.
When I originally read the official AMA report of Mladin's fine and penalty, I sided with the AMA. After reading the transcript of what Mat actually said, I have changed my mind. I believe he had a right to "vent" in a public forum and nothing I read there seemed terribly out of place. He could have left out the "sh*t" word, but it was said in the heat of the moment and I have certainly said worse, especially when agitated. That guy (Moore?) from NHIR came across as a real jerk.
I think public sports figures need to be mindful of the impact of their words and attitudes upon those who look up to them, especially children. Poor sportsmanship is rampant these days and, IMHO, a fine or censure is appropriate when athletes step over that line and lose sight of that. I don't believe that a man can puff his chest out about how "professional" he is in one breath, and then lose sight of that in the next, with impunity.
I respect Mat Mladin's abilities and he has never, to my knowledge, stepped out of line publicly before this weekend. I think we ought to give him a break this time.
BUT -- I think Eric Bostrom, who seems to be commensurately professional, had the last laugh in this case. He who was categorized as an "amateur" by Mladin simply went out and beat him, fair and square -- with no chest pounding or excessive bravado. That makes a far bigger statement than any press conference.
Bravo, Eric.
When I originally read the official AMA report of Mladin's fine and penalty, I sided with the AMA. After reading the transcript of what Mat actually said, I have changed my mind. I believe he had a right to "vent" in a public forum and nothing I read there seemed terribly out of place. He could have left out the "sh*t" word, but it was said in the heat of the moment and I have certainly said worse, especially when agitated. That guy (Moore?) from NHIR came across as a real jerk.
I think public sports figures need to be mindful of the impact of their words and attitudes upon those who look up to them, especially children. Poor sportsmanship is rampant these days and, IMHO, a fine or censure is appropriate when athletes step over that line and lose sight of that. I don't believe that a man can puff his chest out about how "professional" he is in one breath, and then lose sight of that in the next, with impunity.
I respect Mat Mladin's abilities and he has never, to my knowledge, stepped out of line publicly before this weekend. I think we ought to give him a break this time.
BUT -- I think Eric Bostrom, who seems to be commensurately professional, had the last laugh in this case. He who was categorized as an "amateur" by Mladin simply went out and beat him, fair and square -- with no chest pounding or excessive bravado. That makes a far bigger statement than any press conference.
Bravo, Eric.
Hey before you jump all over Mladin, why don't you try to find out a little more about what he said and why? Try Roadracing World for the details:
http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/index.html
And MO, how about a little more coverage like the guys at Roadracing World? You make Mladin look like a **** by printing the AMA's side of the story only. How about trying to contact Mladin about his side of the story?
And while you're at it, how about some real news about the Edmundson debacle, and now Iannuchi? Seems like AMA racing has been treating the riders and promoters that built the sport like dirt for some time now.
Ed (AMA member for years)
http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/index.html
And MO, how about a little more coverage like the guys at Roadracing World? You make Mladin look like a **** by printing the AMA's side of the story only. How about trying to contact Mladin about his side of the story?
And while you're at it, how about some real news about the Edmundson debacle, and now Iannuchi? Seems like AMA racing has been treating the riders and promoters that built the sport like dirt for some time now.
Ed (AMA member for years)
Ya it's a free site now you bonehead but they keep bugging everyone for money and M.O. says you might have to pay for this site. If it doesn't work properly why pay or donate. Why pay to read about old news. Get your head out of your A$$ and stop making stupid comments.
oooooohhh.....the 's' word!!! that's worth 5g's to the AMA? clearly this word was used in a context that was critical of the AMA, thus the fine, and clearly that's censorship. Let the marketplace deal with Mr. Mladin. if his language offends, don't buy his sponsor's products, but don't censor a man's opinions with fines.
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