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Pass the Grey Poupon there bro

I'm not a huge NASCAR fan but I can enjoy it for what it is. You'd better be thankful for it though because Speed's deal with Winston Cup most likely pays for its coverage of other events.

The ratings for most racing events are miniscule. You may be passionate about certain forms of racing but that doesn't mean the network is making a profit from it.

TV Stations don't exist to make us happy, they exist to sell ad time.

 

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Re: Pass the Grey Poupon there bro

Well thanks for the insult. Sorry to sting you with reality there. Gee, if you had bothered to read my first sentence I said I wasn't a huge fan of NASCAR, I just understand economics a little better than you perhaps.

For the record I own a sportbike too. (Ducati) I've never been to a NASCAR race but have attended serveral AMA superbike, CART and IMSA (back when there was an IMSA) events.

And you can stuff your perjorative ******* crap up your arse too. I live in San Diego.

Thank you Sean for doing a much better job of explaining this than I ever could.

 

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Re: Pass the Grey Poupon there bro

Well it figures my comments would rile someone who drives a girl's car (Z3) anyway.

 

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Re: Pass the Grey Poupon there bro

Yes we love our motorcycles. Unfortunately, unless you have a ratings diary on your kitchen counter or a Nielson decoder attached to your TV, your viewing habits aren't being monitored by anyone.

So no need to suffer through Greg's garage if you don't want to. Keep the easy leaker in the box and feel free to get up and use the restroom proper-like.

 

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Re: Love it

You sure you don't drive a Z3 coupe?

 

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I think one of the most difficult things from a sponsor standpoint is that motorcycles are so small no one can read your logo unless it's sitting still.



Those big ol' Winston Cup cars make awful nice flying billboards.

 

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Re: Pass the Grey Poupon there bro

I agree. There is much more technology in NASCAR than those who dislike it think. Plus there is some awesome driving talent. Guys like Stewart and Gordon would be successful no matter where they raced.

I think there is also a bias against anyone with a southern accent who uses home-spun phrases must immediately be classified as stupid.

Are you considering a Harley so you can fit in with the neighbors?

 

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Re: Pass the Grey Poupon there bro

I was just kidding but I figured as long as he was flinging around insults I could too. Actually the Z-4 looks pretty good in the flesh. I've seen a few cruising around here already.

Does your daughter ask you to borrow the Miata a lot? ;-)

 

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Re: Pass the Grey Poupon there bro

I agree the boxer twin is a little too flatulent for me too. Plus there's not much you can do if you want it to make more power compared to the H-D hopups available.

I'll bet since the Dyna Sport is not a big seller you should be able to demo one if any dealers have one on the sales floor.

I was teasing about the daughter/Miata since you asked if it was a girl's car.

 

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Re: Pass the Grey Poupon there bro

They might do that for their own purposes in terms of deciding what channels get viewers since the cable stations sell local spots as well.

But for Nielson ratings you'd have to have a box or a diary.

 

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I agree. For road racing motorcycles are superior. There is actually on-track passing!



Formula 1 and CART have become long,boring technology parades. I've been going to the Long Beach Grand Prix for several years and haven't seen a pass for position in a long time. CART Laguna Seca last year was the same thing. Qualifying was pretty much the order of finish.

 

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Re: Pass the Grey Poupon there bro

You obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about with all your "facts."

Michael Andretti raced in NASCAR? He's one of the winningest drivers in CART history. He didn't have succes in F1. You're right about that. No one has success in F1 except for the team with the most money, e.g. Ferrari right now.

You think oval racing isn't real racing? Try telling Mario Andretti, Nigel Mansell, AJ Foyt and other drivers too numerous to name.

I can't figure out whether you're snooty or just ignorant.

 

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That was John

I believe you're confusing him with John Andretti. John still races Winston Cup. Michael's biggest success seems to be street courses. Mario actually won the Daytona 500 once and could only win Indy once. Michael has never won Indy.

It may take more skill to be fast on a road course but it takes way more stones to be fast on an oval, especially in open-wheel racing.

I can remember several years ago when Mansell came over to CART and won a race at a 1 mile oval (Loudon or Phoenix), the race was close and intense. He got out of the car and said that was just "incredible, pure racing."

I can appreciate road-racing however there is so little passing now it's just a long parade. That's why I think motorcycles are superior for watching road racing vs. F1 or CART.

For cars the ovals tend to catch my attention more than street courses and most road courses.

 

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Re: So we found some common ground?

I believe we have. IRL is all circle track but CART sure isn't. In fact I think CART has only 3 or 4 ovals on its schedule now. I loved CART because the drivers had to be good at everything, road courses, street courses, small ovals and large ovals. I've been to the Long Beach Grand Prix (total party but no passing), Laguna Seca (again no passing) and the California Speedway at Fontana (240 mph qualifying times!) I've also been to Indianapolis a few times. Ovals are a blast in person.

Motorcycle content- Laguna Seca is awesome for motorcycles (lots of passing) but I was bored at the CART race there last year and the drivers for the most part are total pricks. That's one of the huge reasons for NASCAR popularity is that the drivers are so accessible to the fans.

Unfortunately I will miss the first AMA California race this year due to a business committment. Perhaps I can catch Sonoma or Laguna Seca.