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Kudos to Speedvision (I don't like the new name) for sticking with the coverage, but what's with David Sadowsky(sp?)? Is he Kurtis Roberts' agent? The talent isn't worth squat if you can't ever make the finish line!



Do you think that Yates is going to get a spanking from the AMA?
 

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I think Yates will be fine. Given the fact that Nicky had to put out his own fire while a corner worker held his hand, I'd say there wasn't a whole lot of respect for the staff at VIR.



I think his comment about coming to "rinky-dink" racetracks pretty much summed it up. Don't get me wrong, I think the VIR layout is awesome, but the facilities need severe work. As far as I could tell, the only real building on the premesis was a big red barn. I think I can hear the WSB and MotoGP folks laughing at the AMA right now.
 

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You're not the only one who hates the Speed name. I heard half the people at VIR call it Speedvision, including the track announcers who stumbled over it a few times. Being at the race I didn't hear Sadowski, but he is a bit over the top about Kurtis, and I agree Kurtis does not warrant the praise or the attention. 'Ski has a bad habit of forecasting what might be happening, but I do appreciate his insights and commentary, just needs to leave out the prognosticating.



I was at turn 4-5 when Yates and Kurtis went down. Yates was actually just reacting to the burning bike a lot faster than the silly marshals. Kurtis's bike is still laying on the track and the marshals were throwing a waving yellow. Kurtis walked away from his bike when the little flames started (he wasn't much worried about himself) and Yates was also nearby. So Yates threw himself on the track trying to get the marshals to call a red flag, which they should have right off the bat anyway since Kurtis's bike was laying just a few feet of the racing line on the track. It took way too long for somebody to show up with a fire extinguisher if you ask me, and no marshals showed up at the bike until the guy with the fire extinquisher. I think Yates even managed to get his bike back on the track by himself, and Kurtis got a ride back from another racer before any marshals made it to him. He'll likely end up with a fine/suspension, but AMA needs to look at perhaps training the marshals for a little quicker action, and place some extinguishers and safety gear a little closer to where they might need it.



For instance the marshals for turn 4 are before the turn, and the marshals for turn 5 are well after. Yet, we saw a number of crashes between turn 4 and 5 and nobody but photographers seemed to be in place right behind the air fence there, ready to respond. Certainly no safety gear there as if it was it could have been to Kurtis's bike rapidly. Instead some guy has to run through the ditch and up the hill from the turn 5 station.



We also saw quite a few guys go off at the kink before turn 3, and at turn 3. Guys going off at the kink had to wait a long time before the marshals stationed on the very outside of the track could get there. I know they can't be real close to the action and in the danger zone, but I think they could have been positioned a little better, especially when they know where the crashers will end up for the most part. Only the flag guys need to be before a turn, the safety workers typically need to be at or through the turn.
 

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Re: VIR Facility

So, it was hot in August in southern VA. That is an issue for AMA, not VIR. I found the facility great. Shady places to order good enough food & to eat. Showers & airconditioned bathroom. Easy to walk around from one corner watching area to another to see large parts of the track from single viewpoints. Friendly staff. Pits very accessible for being nosey.
 

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Re: Yates nap on the track at turn 4

I obviously don't know what Aaron Yates was thinking when he ran out & lay down on the track. It did remind me of the tactic dirt track racers use - when they fall, they lie on the track so the race has to be red-flagged & they can then get back in the restart. As soon as they see the red flag, they go from playing dead to running to the bike, picking it up & jump starting it.
 

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Re: VIR Facility

Agreed, but any track where the start/finish is unviewable by anyone except the track officials and the TV audience is sorely in need of some grandstands. It wouldn't be too difficult by the looks of it. Just a foot bridge and a set of high school bleachers on the other side of the track from the pits would do VIR a world of good. Oh yeah, an audio system that is audible and more than one tiny broken ATM machine for 10,000 hungry consumers might be nice too.
 

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In Other News...Randy Renfrow

Ya know, I thought News was News. I emailed the news staff about why there were no stories on the death of one of America's grittiest and best loved roadracers, Randy Renfrow, and the response I got was very disheartening.

John Burns:

"well, if you already know about it, why do we need to report on it?"

My response:

"'cause your journalists?..and it's news? ...and you might want to report on it and say something witty or thoughful or otherwise informative? ... You guys seem to like to do stuff like that ...and I like to pay you to do it ...and I think that you usually do it pretty well when you get around to it.

sheesh... "

Bitter Little Man, What Gives?
 

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Doug Chandler ....

i'm happy for hayden, but i'm even happier for doug chandler. i have to assume that he's had some backing over the years, but he really seems to be coming alive with the ducati. that must be SOME bike, 'cause that old phart sure is hauling on it.
 

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Re: VIR Facility

The facility was pretty nice in my book. Red barns are cool. The track has a lot of good viewing areas , you can walk around freely, and the pits are accessible for no extra money.

It would be nice to see the start/finish but otherwise the place is great.
 

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Burnsie B*tchslap!

John Burns:

"well, if you already know about it, why do we need to report on it?"

Because we pay you guys good money to report on it! We expect you to be our information portal of online moto-info. I was also wondering where the hell you guys were all weekend. I understand you were all out on the SV650 vs. everything else road test, and that's cool. I understand. But just tell us what's going on.

Love ya Burnsie, but that attitude is seriously not cool. We like to get MO's take on things and MO gives us a place to discuss these things, even if you think they are not warranted.

How about a message board where MO readers can post their own stories and info without troubling you guys & gals?
 

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Tape johnnyb to a telephone poll

MO, and particularly JB, owe you an apology.

John Burns should pay the traditional MO penalty. Please publish the photos as soon as possible.

They do have some inside staff. Why can't they pick user news submissions for posting under a seperate logo, say "User Grist". The last item in tne News list could always point to the latest thread. They can clean them out on a one or two week schedule if they want to.

They might even learn something about their subscribers, but I've stopped believing in miracles.
 
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