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· Super Duper Mod Man
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Re: Another reason why I shouldn't renew my membership.

Maybe I look like a "trailer trash idiot", but I can spell "helmet" correctly. Probably most of my "Harley brothers" can also. That is why as a demographic we are better educated and make more money than you. We can also lobby effectively and think clearly, while not looking like morons in the process. If you want to use my name in a post, be sure it meets my standards, else I will easily prove who really has the shyt for brains.
 

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The real point, is motorcycles are a drop in the emissions bucket. Insignificant to the pollution that is tossed in daily by cars, SUV's and horribly smoking trucks and trains and busses. Since it really isn't a solution to a much bigger problem, why have it? Because they can. I am sure the AMA is telling them that they have bigger fish to fry than the motorcycle industry. The AMA certainly has to use all the tools at their disposal to make their case, and you say these sound foolish. It's no more foolish than charging a guy with 15 felony counts when he punches someone in the nose. They will allow 14 to get tossed to get one to stick. If you charge him with 1 and it gets tossed then he walks. Number of arguments can win in Washington, not just the best ones. Just as the gun lobby protects their rights in a steadfast manner, so should we. Some of the gun lobby stances look foolish on paper, but in reality they know where the end game lies. Regulate guns out of existance. All you saying how the Japanese can meet these standards easily, is funny. Already the bikes are jetted so lean that most of them run like crap out of the factory. Maybe when KPaul gets a ticket for rejetting his carbs or using a Power Commander to get his bike to run correctly will he then squeal like a pig. The Japanese couldn't save the 2 stroke from extinction, and the day will come soon when they have to significantly reduce performance to reach standards that will be in effect. That's the end game folks. Only then will KPaul get his head out of his a$$ and start crying about it, but alas, much too late. These standards aren't the end game, but just a step closer to it. If the EPA can prove that motorcycles are a significant problem, I would be all for it. Since we know they aren't, it's just more another useless regulation. It's not as if we don't have enough of those already.
 

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Re: Another reason why I shouldn't renew my membership.

Well, "ol' chum" you said I was better. I said as a demographic, "trailer trash" like me that don't wear "helments" could spell, are more educated and make more money than you superior Japanese bike owners that wear "helments". No brag, just fact. Don't like it? Ask me if I care. It was your conclusion that I was "better", not mine. Obviously, logic isn't your thing either. "Because this, then that" is a common error in logic, but since your idea of personal worth has nothing to do with education, intelligence, or success you wouldn't understand that anyway. See ya later "ol' chum".
 

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"Most sportbikes arent offensively loud till above 6k rpm. Add in tall gearing and if they do romp on it they are about 3 blocks away within a few seconds."



You are kidding with the 6k rmp thing right? The race exhausts many put on are loud at a fast idle. And in a city area you are 3 blocks away from what? You are just annoying people a little farther away is all. Being loud is loud. Doesn't matter that you are pissing off people in a different area.





 

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We are the "little guy" because of our own doing. Large masses of unorganized individuals(motorcyclists) get stomped on. Large masses of organized individuals(gun owners & AARP) get their way. When you can bring money and voting clout to the table, you have an even chance at beating the BS regulations and laws that will directly affect your interests. In life you usually never get what you want, but what you deserve.
 

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KPaul is right!

I just realized KPaul is right. Us "trailer trash" should just go along with the program and nod approvingly at all laws and regulations. Why fight it? Let's all live better together the government way! I'm sure if I turn in my guns, stop riding dangerous motorcycles, never exceed the speed limit, don't smoke, don't drink, eat only healthy foods, excercise every day, have safe sex, shun all movies or books with violence, sex, or bad language, and restrain myself from ever doing any dangerous or sinful acts I will live a happier and much more rewarding and fuller life. If I could be KPaul's neighbor, it would only add to the pleasure of said life. So if THIS scenario isn't reason enough for fighting for all you are worth, nothing is.
 

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Motorcycles solve traffic and transportation problems, as well as getting far superior gas mileage. Can the Ford Excursion owner say that? Didn't think so. Actually Ford Excursion owners CAN claim more resources used for mfg., more gas burned, more pollution spit out, more space taken for almost no real advantage than any other vehicle made. Most people have common sense to solve the big problems before the tiny ones. Lawn mowers and snow blowers pollute more in one hour than a car does all day. Any regulations on those? Why not? Because they aren't worth it. By your argument, they need to meet emissions. Cars and trucks are a much bigger problem. Fix that and the rest will be easy.



As for your performance argument, lets compare apples to apples. The 60's and 70's muscle cars could be bought and worked on by anyone. They were cheap, fast, easy to maintain and rebuildable. Your Corvette costs $60,000 and can only be worked on by a factory trained mechanic. the cars people can afford perform like shyt. That's why 60's muscle car prices are going through the roof. Affordable performance. End of story on that one. Don't you just love those $700 tune ups when they replace a couple "sensors" that go bad? I don't want a 2 wheeled car. If you do then go buy a GoldWing.
 

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I like the loud pipes too. I also can understand that the noise annoys people. Case in point. My old Harley has open pipes. My brother was riding it and pulled very slowly out of the driveway and down the street. the sound of him leaving was far from annoying. About half a block down he opened it up in a couple gears and that WAS annoying even from a large distance away. Case in point. It's not always the pipes that annoy, but the bonehead twisting the throttle!
 

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Re: Another reason why I shouldn't renew my membership.

I really don't give a rats A$$ what or who you look down upon "ol' chum". Call me out and you get what you pay for. Next time just say "kiss my a$$" and spare me all your literary and philisophical ma$turbation. Just giving back what you gave. Bye "ol' chum"
 

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You are right that todays cars can be made faster. You also would never be able to drive that car in Chicago because you could never meet emissions. You have to get a tag every 2 here and pass an emissions test. Club racing is fine, but the car is no longer street legal and the rules are getting tougher to get around all the time. We were talking about the average guy being able to have street performance for an affordable price. I hardly think a Porche Carrera fits that criteria.
 

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Re: Selective Memory

A Civic is fast?LOL Who are you kidding? Buy a Civic and put a ***** can muffler on it is working on it? $20,000 isn't a lot of money? My brother has a 69 442 that cost him $20,000 to put together from a basket that has disc brakes, tight suspension and his makes 500hp 550 ft lbs of torque and drives on the street just fine. Would you like to race him with your $20,000 Civic? THAT is performance for $20,000. I think the one that has selective memories is you. GM put out 12 second cars right out of the factory in the 60's. Your 17 second Civic with the ***** can muffler and flames isn't performance. It's looks. Just like you complain the Harley guys do. Yeah, I have selective memory that you can't touch a 60's muscle these days without a trainload of cash. Must be lots of selective memory out there.
 

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Re: Another reason why I shouldn't renew my membership.

All that education and you still can't spell. You have made the "helment" error before, so I doubt there was a big hurry there. No, you don't use CS courses to inflate you GPA. I could post some data structures here you couldn't figure out in a million years. Not even in the same ballpark. You aren't a programmer and could never be because you actually have to spell things correctly. I am also a retired fierfighter with 20+ years of service and have a full pension as well as making quite a fine paycheck programming. If you want to bet on the more money thing I would take that bet any day. Let me know how you want to work out the bet.
 

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Check these out Shaun!

Fastest muscle cars made:

1. '66 AC COBRA 427 [email protected]

2. '66 CORVETTE 427 [email protected]

3. '69Roadrunner440 "SixPack"[email protected]

4. '70 Hemi Cuda [email protected]

5. '70 CHEVELLE SS 454 [email protected]

6. '68 CORVETTE [email protected]

7. '70 Roadrunner 426 Hemi [email protected]

8. '70 BUICK GS 455 [email protected]

9. '69 Charger 500 [email protected]

10. '73 Trans Am [email protected]

Not bad numbers for old tech. Heck you could get an SS Impala in 66 that would run close to these numbers! Notice nothing after 73. 74 was the gas embargo and they couldn't give these cars away. These were then street legal cars that could easily be made to run faster without much help or BS EPA restrictions. After catalytic converters, air pumps, no-lead gas it's back to $60 grand to get anwhere near this performace.
 

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Re: Another reason why I shouldn't renew my membership.

By the way, my e-mail address is in my profile. Any bet you want to make on paychecks I can match easy. Now we can see who is talking out their a$$. time to put up or shut up Mr. Engineer. I am ready anytime you are.
 

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Re: Check these out Shaun!

If your buddy can't do better than a 12.5 with 500 hp, then something is wring. By the way, That 70 Chevelle had 500 hp right out the door, so how optimistic is it now? My bro's 442 ran 11.56 with 500 hp. I can post his dyno sheet and strip ticket. By the way, what is being made today for 25,000 that can run a 12.5?
 
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