[Dr._ST]

Re: one Environment. why burn it?

Seems logical to impose new motorcycle emissions standards while concurrently reducing the requirements for power production facilities and other industry.

EPA Administrator, Christie Whitman, said Friday that this easing of air emission requirements for industry might even encourage emission reductions. Yeah, right!

It might also encourage the dirtiest of the industrial polluters to continue polluting beyond the current standards for years to come.

I guess we can allow the big industries to bellow thousands of tons/year more muck into our air and just tighten the noose on the motorcyclists (who belch a whopping one-tenth of one percent of total CO and Nox pollutants) to make up for it.

The stricter m/c emissions proposal also mentions the impaired visibility within our national parks as a concern affecting the new regs. And, after all, how many coal-burning electrical facilities do you see cruising mountainous twisties in national parks?????

All makes perfect sense!

 

[KPaulCook]

Excellent Post but it is wasted on shorthop (longride)

Your points A and B are great. shorthop has what my dad calls grumpy old mens illness. i.e. everthing was better in the old days, cars, motorcycles, etc. My dad is 60 now he says cars etc. are much better now. Safer, cleaner, handle better, more reliable, etc. He credits the Japanese for the relible part. Good post thanks.

 

[KPaulCook]

Re: Grammar check

he started it, I am just ending it. i.e. I hate bullies.

 

[KPaulCook]

Re: Grammar check

Hey longride always gets desperate when he losing an argument. He resorts to attacking my writing or with personal attacks. Now others are using the same tatics. I just want to show that if I wanted to attack a persons writing I could. So I will stop if stops. He attacks the person not the idea.

 

[KPaulCook]

I'll make you a deal longride.

LOL

I hope you have had enough. I'll make you a deal. Whenever you are in a discussion/argument with me, if you don't attack me personally, or my writing skills etc I won't attack you the same way. If you just attack my ideas, I promise to do the same. I won't name call or attack you personally.

Deal?

 

[bigjames]

To take the wind out of the folks who say "I can't agree with the AMA on this one" because they either say they are too green (going to slap the next one that makes this a moral issue, give me a freaking break) or blindly support all the policies of the right wing damn near facist acting government that the majority did not put there and who have no mandate whatsoever (except in Florida where they even screwed up electronic voting, note Georgia figured out how to do it properly - 'nough said about that).



Whoops, I digressed, back to the subject!



Now they want to loosen EPA (as it is run by the Republican's now) anti-pollution rules on Coal Fired power plants, one of which can spew more crap in a month than all of us in a year or two on our evil CO, NO, CO2, etc... producing motorcycles! (Hell, cows and trees produce more CO2 than we do, except after eating lots of Tex-Mex type food or beans) All in the name of taking some of the burden off the poor under funded, low income producing power companies. (bet you folks in Cali really feel sorry for those poor companies) You know, the companies like the current Pres and VP used to sit on the boards of. Find this strange, but typical of US eviro-politics of the right.



Now you greenies can leave me alone on my personal 'immoral' pollution producing vehicles. My 2000 BMW and 2003 Harley both meet and surpass CARB regs up to 2008 (and get way over 40 MPG to boot). The Harley does not even need the mandated catalytic concverter that the Swiss require on most bikes - and they are tougher than CARB!



Basically, what someone else said is right, screw the little guy to make it look like the EPA is doing something while all the time patting that behemouths on the back saying, it's all right, we'll fix it for you....



Getting off soap box now, next....

 

[Buzglyd]

Removing bikes wouldn't help

I believe theoretically if you removed every motorcycle from the road today there would be no measureable or noticable difference in air quality. Bikes contribute that little overall. Increasing emission requirements just make politicians and uninformed tree huggers feel better about themselves.

Remember, if you do something as minor as rejet your bike, you run afoul of emissions standards. How many of us have done that?

 

[fizzchem]

Re: Wrong answer

Bzzt.

I grew up near Raceway Park in Joisey. My dad raced a heavily modified 1969 Camaro with the 454 wedged in there. My brother still races GSs (Stage 1 and 2) and owns a Saturn Yellow GSX. The Buicks put out over 500lb.-ft of torque and *easily* break 15 bone stock. So will a Hemi Cuda, a 440 Wedge motor, the Rat motors from 396 to 454. The Olds 442 and the late model GTOs will easily break 15. The Mustangs with the 390s and 428s will do the same. My 68 Mustang GT clocked at 14.2. There's a publication called MuscleCarReview that writes about this stuff.

 

[Janicelok626]

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[Janicelok626]

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[Janicelok626]

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