An Unholy Ordinance!
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A map of Florida strongly suggests that this North Port is a wide place in the road just west of I 75 maybe halfway between Fort Myers and Sarasota and a few miles inland from the Gulf of Mexico.
Anybody from that neck of the woods able to provide any background to this ignorance?
Anybody from that neck of the woods able to provide any background to this ignorance?
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Perhaps the city's leaders were tired of motrcycles with modified exhausts cruising the streets. It is probable easier to enforce a "no motorcycles" policy, rather than stop and test bikes with a decibel meter.
I submit North Port as the next national Hog Rally city.
300,000 strong. call out the Guard.
Shoot to kill.
We can bring in every diverse bike group under the sun.
Wait till Dikes on Bikes arrives arm in arm with
HA.
Bikers for Jesus with the Devils Diciples.
This could put North port on the map.
300,000 strong. call out the Guard.
Shoot to kill.
We can bring in every diverse bike group under the sun.
Wait till Dikes on Bikes arrives arm in arm with
HA.
Bikers for Jesus with the Devils Diciples.
This could put North port on the map.
apparently it was a "mistake"
http://www.sun-herald.com/NewsArchive4/072806/tp16de16.htm?date=072806&story=tp16de16.htm
http://www.sun-herald.com/NewsArchive4/072806/tp16de16.htm?date=072806&story=tp16de16.htm
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North Port is, logically, just north of Fort Myers and Port Charlotte on the West Coast of Florida. It's very small.
It's not clear to me that they have the legal authority to ban motorcycles - I suspect it would depend upon the amount of funds used to build their roads received from the state, county and federal governments.
Anyone here a lawyer who can answer definitively?
I'm from that general area originally, and there aren't a lot of bikes because the riding pretty much blows - lots of straights, it's hot, it rains a lot, the traffic can be difficult, the drivers aren't aware of other cars let alone bikes etc.
Nevertheless, this law is passing strange and must have been passed in response to something specific. Additionally, banning a vehicle post-purchase when it's a single mode of transportation might similarly not stand legal scrutiny without compensation.
cdg
It's not clear to me that they have the legal authority to ban motorcycles - I suspect it would depend upon the amount of funds used to build their roads received from the state, county and federal governments.
Anyone here a lawyer who can answer definitively?
I'm from that general area originally, and there aren't a lot of bikes because the riding pretty much blows - lots of straights, it's hot, it rains a lot, the traffic can be difficult, the drivers aren't aware of other cars let alone bikes etc.
Nevertheless, this law is passing strange and must have been passed in response to something specific. Additionally, banning a vehicle post-purchase when it's a single mode of transportation might similarly not stand legal scrutiny without compensation.
cdg
Can someone please explain to me how a legal and licensed street motocycle with state plates and tags can be prohibited from operating on any public road?
Do we get a refund, then, on our portion of taxes spent on supporting public highways and infrastructure? Me thinks not.
Do we get a refund, then, on our portion of taxes spent on supporting public highways and infrastructure? Me thinks not.
"Can someone please explain to me how a legal and licensed street motocycle with state plates and tags can be prohibited from operating on any public road?"
I can explain it. The public has been brainwashed into thinking that everything in our life is a "privilege" that is given to us by our all knowing, ever compassionate government. You believe that driving is a privilege and not a right, don't you? When they decide to take that "privilege" away, it's because we have been bad boys and girls and deserve it. Remember Kindergarten? It kinda works the same way. If Little Johnny gets caught chewing gum in class, the whole class gets punished. We are the kiddies and they are the teachers. We are much too stupid to be trusted to make our own decisions in life, so they must be made for us. Get used to it, as long as you believe that nothing is your right, and the gov knws better than you do.
"Do we get a refund, then, on our portion of taxes spent on supporting public highways and infrastructure? Me thinks not."
Yeah, you will get a refund. The check is in the mail. Should arrive any day now.
I can explain it. The public has been brainwashed into thinking that everything in our life is a "privilege" that is given to us by our all knowing, ever compassionate government. You believe that driving is a privilege and not a right, don't you? When they decide to take that "privilege" away, it's because we have been bad boys and girls and deserve it. Remember Kindergarten? It kinda works the same way. If Little Johnny gets caught chewing gum in class, the whole class gets punished. We are the kiddies and they are the teachers. We are much too stupid to be trusted to make our own decisions in life, so they must be made for us. Get used to it, as long as you believe that nothing is your right, and the gov knws better than you do.
"Do we get a refund, then, on our portion of taxes spent on supporting public highways and infrastructure? Me thinks not."
Yeah, you will get a refund. The check is in the mail. Should arrive any day now.
No this isn't legal
I'm not sure why everyone is in an uproar about this. No, this isnt legal and will not hold up in court. It is illegal to bar a legally registered vehicle from any road that has used state or federal dollars for construction or maintenance. If North Port, FL were a private community with locally built roads it would be legal. The exception for this law is for commercial vehicles. Of course laws can change and we as motorcyclist arent helping ourselves.
As others have noted, there is a reason that the local population as taken the effort to attempt to ban motorcycles from their community. This is most likely due to too many arm chap wearing Hells Angels wannabes with straight pipes and their counterparts the Stunt BoyZ wannabes with race cans. At least this is the most common complaint I hear from non-riders and riders alike.
Even as someone that commutes everyday on a motorcycle, Ive started to become increasingly annoyed with my fellow motorcyclists. Some examples:
This past 4th of July my family went to Washington, DC. While is the area we went to Gettysburg National Battlefield. It just so happens that that week was Gettysburgs "Bike Week". There was no a single place on that battlefield (which is multiple square miles is size BTW) that we didnt hear the roar of straight piped motorcycles. While we were in town, you couldnt walk down the street and carry on a conversation because the motorcycles were so loud that you couldnt hear the person next to you.
I live by the Smoky Mountain National Park and hike there quite often. However, on weekends, even when hiking miles off the main roads, I hear motorcycles every couple of minutes. Notice, I didnt say that I hear traffic, I said I hear MOTORCYCLES. From miles away, I hear the distinct "Potato-Potato" from the straight pipes of Harleys and their clones and the high-pitched whine of sportbikes with race cans.
Race cans belong on the racetrack and straight pipes in the scrap yard. There is no reason to pull off stock pipes to put on annoying and illegal aftermarket exhausts. Lets stop pissing people off before they legislate us out of existence.
I'm not sure why everyone is in an uproar about this. No, this isnt legal and will not hold up in court. It is illegal to bar a legally registered vehicle from any road that has used state or federal dollars for construction or maintenance. If North Port, FL were a private community with locally built roads it would be legal. The exception for this law is for commercial vehicles. Of course laws can change and we as motorcyclist arent helping ourselves.
As others have noted, there is a reason that the local population as taken the effort to attempt to ban motorcycles from their community. This is most likely due to too many arm chap wearing Hells Angels wannabes with straight pipes and their counterparts the Stunt BoyZ wannabes with race cans. At least this is the most common complaint I hear from non-riders and riders alike.
Even as someone that commutes everyday on a motorcycle, Ive started to become increasingly annoyed with my fellow motorcyclists. Some examples:
This past 4th of July my family went to Washington, DC. While is the area we went to Gettysburg National Battlefield. It just so happens that that week was Gettysburgs "Bike Week". There was no a single place on that battlefield (which is multiple square miles is size BTW) that we didnt hear the roar of straight piped motorcycles. While we were in town, you couldnt walk down the street and carry on a conversation because the motorcycles were so loud that you couldnt hear the person next to you.
I live by the Smoky Mountain National Park and hike there quite often. However, on weekends, even when hiking miles off the main roads, I hear motorcycles every couple of minutes. Notice, I didnt say that I hear traffic, I said I hear MOTORCYCLES. From miles away, I hear the distinct "Potato-Potato" from the straight pipes of Harleys and their clones and the high-pitched whine of sportbikes with race cans.
Race cans belong on the racetrack and straight pipes in the scrap yard. There is no reason to pull off stock pipes to put on annoying and illegal aftermarket exhausts. Lets stop pissing people off before they legislate us out of existence.
Re: No this isn't legal
Noise has nothing to do with it. So they will legislate cars off the road because of the loud ones out there? Hardly. There are more loud cars than there are registered motorcycles in Illinois, and I'd bet my last nickel on that one. If banning anything that annoys us is the norm, I have plenty of stuff that pisses me off.
Noise has nothing to do with it. So they will legislate cars off the road because of the loud ones out there? Hardly. There are more loud cars than there are registered motorcycles in Illinois, and I'd bet my last nickel on that one. If banning anything that annoys us is the norm, I have plenty of stuff that pisses me off.
"Privilege" is exactly right. One that is earned and paid for by qualified taxpayers. I just don't think some misguided, geriatric locality has the jack to enforce their version of what constitutes a legal street vehicle on public roads.
Think the check will get here before the weekend? I've got some arm chaps and straight pipes I've been looking at..............
Think the check will get here before the weekend? I've got some arm chaps and straight pipes I've been looking at..............
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Thanks, all of you loud pipe peabrains. You're safe now. At least from any of us being able to ride there. If I'm accidentally ticketed while riding through FLA, I'll be sure to send it to www.loudpipetrollssuck.com.
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