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· The Toad
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Difficult decision. Especially in LA where there are so many drugged idiots (legal and illegal) and a fair number of armed idiots as well. Trying to follow in your own little high speed chase may just end you up in liability for the consquences if there's a crash.



I'm absolutely not saying don't get involved, you just don't want to make a bad situation worse. Reporting the make, model, color and first several numbers of the lic plate of an auto is enough for the police to make a collar. Even better if you can give a description of the driver.



You probably made the best decision given the difficult circumstances.
 

· The Toad
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I had what could have been a nasty situation back in the 80's. I was riding down I-15 on my '85 ironhead Sportster minding my own business, Sunday morning and almost no traffic, when some moron in a pickup truck passes me and starts flipping me off. What for, I don't have a clue. Maybe he once had an AMF Sportster and was just flipping off my bike. Anyhow he keeps flipping me for a couple of miles. This fool even has a baby in a car seat next to him. At this time I go on an off ramp and finally sick of being flipped I flip him back. Immediately there's blue smoke as this psycho screeches to a halt in the middle of the freeway and backs up to attempt to chase me down. I lose him in the local town and decide to just haul @ss back north to Salt Lake.



You see, I had a brand new shiny .357mag in my saddlebags and was cruising around looking for a place to do some plinking. When I look back at this I'm amazed at my restraint, but think about it, getting in a situation where you have to pull a gun is to be avoided. I've had quite enough of being shot at or shooting back at people. Plus the police wouldn't have any sense of humor about it at all. A split second's wrong decision and my whole life could have been ruined.



So always try to avoid the immediate urge to just shoot the [email protected]@rd. It's not worth it.
 

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I was born in LA, but escaped to Utah in '82. I've found the drivers here to be often more inconsiderate than the drivers in LA. You don't dare use turn indicators on the fwy because almost always someone will speed up to block you off.



We also get lots of big F350 SuperDuty Dieselheads pulling trailers down the fast lane at 80+. They leave big splotches on the road sometimes when they careen out of control. This is especially bad when the trailer has horses in it. Apparently when you own horses you also own the road and no road rules apply to you. It's not in the traffic code, but I swear it's gotta be true.
 

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Re: Angry cagers = Trouble. I HAVE THE ANSWER

You can open carry in Arizona. Or Texas. I've seen guys with holsters mounted on the handlebars. Utah has an open carry law but the cops will arrest you in most cities if you try it. We have a "shall issue" concealed carry law, so they must issue you a permit if you ask for it and aren't a felon.

In LA though you probably would be better off with an RPG or LAAW rocket launcher. Something like that rocket equipped BSA in "Thunderball".

Or you could rent a flick called "The Losers". It's about Hell's Angels who take their bikes to Vietnam to waste VC and they've got machine guns mounted on the handlebars and pull wheelies to shoot guard towers. Really cool. Lots of good ideas there for you Angelenos.
 

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Maybe, but try that in LA and you can bet the cops will arrest you and charge you with a whole load of shyt including daring to have a gun. They don't like pro-active citizens in the People's Republic of Kalifornia, only meek sheep who will quietly submit to be slaughtered. An honest armed citizen who is willing to act is a severe threat to most politicians. A free armed citizenry is their worst nightmare. That's the real motivation behind the PRK's assault on gun rights. If we started taking action against vicious criminals the politicians would be first to go.



(rant off)
 

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Re: Angry cagers = Trouble. I HAVE THE ANSWER

Even before Utah passed the "shall issue" law I was amazed at how many women I met who carried a Lady Smith or small automatic in their glove box or purse.

The penalty for illegal concealed carry in Utah is a misdemeanor so most thought the inifinitesimal chance of being caught was worth the insurance against rape or mugging.

Did I mention how low the rate of muggings and rapes are here?
 
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