longride the only difference between a coward and a bully is that the bully is bigger physically than everyone else. I can't believe your apathy and pacifism.
Angry cagers = Trouble
Doing more.
I have similar things happen to me in Seattle on I-5 and 405 when I used to commute on my bike. I would be in the HOV lane driving 10 mph over the speed limit and be tail gated. Most of the time it was women in SUVs usually talking into a cell phone. I gave up gettng angry about it and just moved over and let them go on.
In this situation I guess I have to defend the motorocyclist a little. No one deserves to be hit with a 3000Lb + weapon. I am surprised you didn't get a little more involved by following the now felony hit and run driver and getting a better id Yes the rider was a jerk and maybe escalated the situation but deliberately hitting somone one and then running is extreme. Again I think you should of done more. If I saw a motorcyclist hit like this believe i would of gone out of my way to make sure the Driver was brought to justice. I guess maybe I expect the same from every other rider.
I have similar things happen to me in Seattle on I-5 and 405 when I used to commute on my bike. I would be in the HOV lane driving 10 mph over the speed limit and be tail gated. Most of the time it was women in SUVs usually talking into a cell phone. I gave up gettng angry about it and just moved over and let them go on.
In this situation I guess I have to defend the motorocyclist a little. No one deserves to be hit with a 3000Lb + weapon. I am surprised you didn't get a little more involved by following the now felony hit and run driver and getting a better id Yes the rider was a jerk and maybe escalated the situation but deliberately hitting somone one and then running is extreme. Again I think you should of done more. If I saw a motorcyclist hit like this believe i would of gone out of my way to make sure the Driver was brought to justice. I guess maybe I expect the same from every other rider.
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Re: In Seattle I things would be different
Bitter old man. You are right stay out of Seattle it rains way too much. Sarnali really doesn't live in a beautiful part of the world and Seattle citizens are really impolite.
Bitter old man. You are right stay out of Seattle it rains way too much. Sarnali really doesn't live in a beautiful part of the world and Seattle citizens are really impolite.
Re: In Seattle I things would be different
Well duh.....
Well duh.....
"Not to be skeptical", indeed! More like expecting the worst from all.
Actually, Kpaul, if you read the first post you can see where I said that I was driving, not riding(couldn't keep up), and while I am reacting to your criticism, I could give a sh!t as to whether or not you believe I'm a good guy or not. You weren't there; you didn't see it; how do we know what you would have done other than what you're saying after the fact of another's situation?
Nice armchair quarterbacking.
Actually, Kpaul, if you read the first post you can see where I said that I was driving, not riding(couldn't keep up), and while I am reacting to your criticism, I could give a sh!t as to whether or not you believe I'm a good guy or not. You weren't there; you didn't see it; how do we know what you would have done other than what you're saying after the fact of another's situation?
Nice armchair quarterbacking.
Re: Trade your SUV in for a minivan, SUVs are breast enlargement devices
DEAR LORD! YOU'VE SPAWNED?!?! I hoped there were sections of the DNA that prevented such a catastrophe.
Totally agree--SUVs (for MOST people) friggin blow. I saw more SUVs in Phoenix than Montana. The only SUV I dig is the R1200GS.
DEAR LORD! YOU'VE SPAWNED?!?! I hoped there were sections of the DNA that prevented such a catastrophe.
Totally agree--SUVs (for MOST people) friggin blow. I saw more SUVs in Phoenix than Montana. The only SUV I dig is the R1200GS.
Thanks for reminding me why I live in Japan.
Noone is armed, drivers are courteous to bikes (there are minor exceptions I've heard of) and fear of retaliation is non-existent.
Land of the free?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm............
Craig
Noone is armed, drivers are courteous to bikes (there are minor exceptions I've heard of) and fear of retaliation is non-existent.
Land of the free?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm............
Craig
Re: Trade your SUV in for a minivan, SUVs are breast enlargement devices
I hate to agree with kpaul but last summer I traded my '99 loaded Explorer for a short wheelbase '00 Venture minivan. During our week long snow storm last winter we got around just fine in the Chevy, in fact with some sand bags in the back my 2wd Ranger got around pretty good too.
I really liked the Explorer but realisticaly for a kids and dogs hauler the van is alot more practical. If I didn't need the room I think something like a Forrester would be pretty cool.
I hate to agree with kpaul but last summer I traded my '99 loaded Explorer for a short wheelbase '00 Venture minivan. During our week long snow storm last winter we got around just fine in the Chevy, in fact with some sand bags in the back my 2wd Ranger got around pretty good too.
I really liked the Explorer but realisticaly for a kids and dogs hauler the van is alot more practical. If I didn't need the room I think something like a Forrester would be pretty cool.
1) No one should ever pull out a gun unless they've already made the decision to use it. You don't pull a gun to scare someone. The only reason to ever pull one is to prevent them from killing you, or someone else.
2) I'm perfectly willing to take a butt-kicking, if it means I don't have to shoot someone.
This 'leave the cop work to the cops" crap is rationalization and nothing more. You yourself just said you'd rather make it home than make that choice. In other words... you're scared. it's fine to be to scared to help someone... but it's still being scared.
2) I'm perfectly willing to take a butt-kicking, if it means I don't have to shoot someone.
This 'leave the cop work to the cops" crap is rationalization and nothing more. You yourself just said you'd rather make it home than make that choice. In other words... you're scared. it's fine to be to scared to help someone... but it's still being scared.
Not all the a**holes are in cars, some are also riding bikes.
It sounds like the DUC rider was looking for trouble and found it.
No he didn't deserve to be knocked down but his behavior cast a shadow on all of the rest of the motorcycling community.
It sounds like the DUC rider was looking for trouble and found it.
No he didn't deserve to be knocked down but his behavior cast a shadow on all of the rest of the motorcycling community.
That ain't what the people are saying, what they are saying is, if someone is nutso and they are maybe 10 times bigger than you, maybe you should give em some room. If you was hiking in the mountains and the path was blocked by a bear, would you assert your right of way? That's the best way to treat cars, large, not very bright, but dangerous objects to be avoided.
I agree with the general consensus, which is (opinion):
1) Cager is wrong
2) Rider should have not made the situation worse
As Mr. Miagi said in the Karate Kid:
"Best block, no be there" ^_^
Would anyone here who is 170lbs try to take a swing at a 350lb bouncer?
Turn the other cheek and realise that you are better off knowing that you are better than any cager and let them pass.
1) Cager is wrong
2) Rider should have not made the situation worse
As Mr. Miagi said in the Karate Kid:
"Best block, no be there" ^_^
Would anyone here who is 170lbs try to take a swing at a 350lb bouncer?
Turn the other cheek and realise that you are better off knowing that you are better than any cager and let them pass.
I agree with the general consensus, which is (opinion):
1) Cager is wrong
2) Rider should have not made the situation worse
As Mr. Miagi said in the Karate Kid:
"Best block, no be there" ^_^
Would anyone here who is 170lbs try to take a swing at a 350lb bouncer?
Turn the other cheek and realise that you are better off knowing that you are better than any cager and let them pass.
1) Cager is wrong
2) Rider should have not made the situation worse
As Mr. Miagi said in the Karate Kid:
"Best block, no be there" ^_^
Would anyone here who is 170lbs try to take a swing at a 350lb bouncer?
Turn the other cheek and realise that you are better off knowing that you are better than any cager and let them pass.
I wouldn't worry too much about what KP thinks eddy. If Jesus came back tomorrow KP would soon be telling him what he was doing wrong. VWW
You're right. He wouldn't have gotten up and chased the cager ... at least until a forklift showed up to give him a hand!!
I'm not taking the car's side, but I think the guy on the Ducati is an idiot. We don't know why the car was tailgating in the first place. I have read many posts where someone on a bike flips the bird to a cage and then wonders why the car is now chasing them. Whether you are in a car or on a bike, if you antagonize someone else on the road you are asking for trouble. Frankly, there are a lot of a-hole riders out there who think that the cagers owe them something. I ride because I love to ride, and I know the risks involved. I'm not a "Sunday" rider, either. I do my job (insurance adjuster) on my bike and I ride about 1,000 mi a week... sometimes more.
So what are you going to do? Chase down every idiot in a cage who offends you? A hit and run is one thing, but where does it end? Be a defensive rider and don't give the rest of us a bad name.
So what are you going to do? Chase down every idiot in a cage who offends you? A hit and run is one thing, but where does it end? Be a defensive rider and don't give the rest of us a bad name.
They say "don't bring a knife to a gunfight."
Well, a car's a gun and a Motorcycle is less than a knife. So when riding, it's the right time to let the testosterone go and do everything possible to let the a**holes have their way and get out of your way as soon as possible.
For your own sanity, it's best to forget their transgressions as soon as possible thereafter and think about nicer things.
(Of course, this is easier at 38 than it was at 28 or, God forbid, 18, and will probably be even easier at 48 and 58.)
Well, a car's a gun and a Motorcycle is less than a knife. So when riding, it's the right time to let the testosterone go and do everything possible to let the a**holes have their way and get out of your way as soon as possible.
For your own sanity, it's best to forget their transgressions as soon as possible thereafter and think about nicer things.
(Of course, this is easier at 38 than it was at 28 or, God forbid, 18, and will probably be even easier at 48 and 58.)
Re: Let's see Duc 999S 0-60 in 3 seconds....
That is so true. A motorcycles only asset is speed. If a car wants to mess with you let it catch you first. If you are ever caught ...sell the bike.
That is so true. A motorcycles only asset is speed. If a car wants to mess with you let it catch you first. If you are ever caught ...sell the bike.
Dang Kpaul, what a completely baseless conclusion to make. Can't believe you actually posted that. You just instigated a rash of justly deserved Kpaul bashing.
Re: In Seattle I things would be different
Good one
Good one
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