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I think the animosity between Sete and Valentino is a direct result of a few unfortunate incidents this year on both sides, and probably has nothing to do with their personalities. I'll bet they'll kiss and make up before next season.



Biaggi is just a whining b!tch. I doubt that the people on his own team get along with him, much less his competitors.
 

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This is the case allover something that involves some sort of technology.



Could Fangio outbeat Schumacher ?

Coul "Steady" Eddie rip off rossi ? or even Dohan ?



Who nows!?



what I think is in those days rider/driver/pilot count. It could make a difference. Nowadays it still does but the gap is narrowing.

At the same time, young riders are getting used to nicely tuned machines and they just step up.

Just look at their age.



Does anybody thinks that Rossi will keep up for the next 3 years ? With riders like Vermeulen ? Take a look at Pedrosa. He's only 19.



Things are happening much faster now. And that's not only in lap times....



I do think that Rossi is actualy the greatest. However nostalgia of Sheene, Lawson, Dohan, Shwantz, Roberts and the kind stil rules....



I guess it's the age.
 

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To cool. Just read a little bit about Jordan being the newest team owner in AMA road racing. That is one I never would have called. He seems into it.

Did you see Montez Stewart's bike? It's Carolina blue and has the Air Jordan logo between the pipes on the back. There is a good interview on the AMA website as well:

http://www.ussuperbike.com/article.php?UID=J577DN9BNlz5uwLcCB1Hl9Nqlwj3Mp&sc=1136&aid=4791

He talks about leaning to do wheelies and crashing his bike(s)...a 998! Oh to be filthy rich and use your Ducati 998 as your practice bike for stunts.
 

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From MOTOGPNEWS.COM:



The euphoria of Rossi's win was apparent throughout the Yamaha team who have finally managed to win a world title since Wayne Rainey managed it, which was somewhere back around the time that the first fish crawled out of the sea. But Yamaha have even more to celebrate than just a victory, they have the satisfaction of thoroughly humiliating their hated enemy Honda - not by building a better bike, but by employing a better rider.



Perhaps the outcome was best analysed by Rossi's chief tea boy, Jerry Burgess. "Yamaha make pianos", quoted the Australian, who has made tea (and the occasional vegemite sandwich) for some of the greatest riders of recent times. "Good pianos, but ****e bikes", Burgess continued, "the M1 is certainly better than it was, but it's still a steaming heap of roo poo. It was mainly all my advice to Rossi that won the day. So in a way I'm actually the champion."
 

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I'd like to see Rossi try winning on the most uncompeditive bike in Moto GP. If he does, my mind will be made up about who is the best of all time...
 

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With Jordan backing a superbike team, does this mean we'll eventually see Nike leathers, helmets, gloves, boots, frame sliders, seats, tires, exhausts, etc.?
 

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Re: Rossi like Mladin are the greatest.

I've never said anything about Mladin either. Kook is just engaging in his usual studitity.

My wife's mother is an Australian war bride, now a naturalized US citizen (complete with Utah drawl). I did a 7 day R&R in Sydney while I was in Nam and had a wonderful time... except for getting used to the left side traffic.

In fact Australia is the best ally that the USA ever had. They've stood with us in every major conflict, including Vietnam and the current one. Their army has been as tough as they come giving the vaunted Germans fits. They are inventive and irreverent and I wouldn't have it any other way. My hat is off to Australia.
 

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Re: Rossi should grow up...

Kook agrees with you.

That should make your day.
 

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Re: Rossi like Mladin are the greatest.

Register to vote for Bush while you're there, okay?

That should raise The Illiterate Idiot's(tm) blood pressure to stroke levels.
 

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Sete and Rossi

I hope you're right about Gib and Rossi, Captain. And given how competitive these guys are it's understandable that Sete would be pretty frustrated. He had a great season of racing and not only does Rossi get the title but nips past him on the last lap at Philip Island to win a GP that Sete led almost the entire way.

Yeah, Biaggi has that prima donna thing goin' pretty good, eh?
 

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It's very difficult to compare riders among generations, and even what the definition of greatest might be. Fastest race lap, race wins, qualifying - all measure slightly different things, and each is impacted by equipment and rider slightly differently.



I'd leave it with the observation that Rossi is a great champion - a genius - just like Doohan and others before. It's hard to say that he's better or worse because they'll never race on their best-matched equipment over a long enough horizon to pass judgment.



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Comparisons, comparisons, comparison: apples & oranges, widows & walls, attics & rooms, acid or shrooms, who cares? All I know is, I once saw Rossi screw-up & end-up somewhere south of 10th place, then proceed to passes everything in sight. He didn't win, but he ended up on the podium, and it looked like he would have run over his grandmother, your grandmother, my grandmother, Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, to get there. God knows a Cambodian tribesman couldn't have made a pair of sandals, out of what was left of the rubber on his tires, but when it was over, Rossi damn-near won the thing.



Don't know much about History, but I do know talent, hard work and dedication; and, Rossi has a Swiss, numbered account, filled with enough of all three, that he could have bank-rolled the Renaissance.



Is having all that talent given to one man annoying? You bet! When the "Gene Fairy" wrapped up my DNA, the box was marked "No Big Deal...Don't bother to forward." Rossi? He got mine, yours’ and just about everybody else's talent. Hate the bugger? At one time, I'd have wanted him dead. But with years, come wisdom, therapy, medication and stalking laws. Now I just sit back and enjoy watching him; knowing that, on any given Sunday, I might just see History being made.



 

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Re: Rossi like Mladin are the greatest.

It's probably just you, talking out your ass again

I have no idea whether LR likes Mladin or not, but it's a far leap to say he doesn't like Oz because he doesn't like one of it's citizens, even for you.
 

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While your comment is both interesting and extremely well written, isn't that also the best possible illustration of how great Rossi is: so good that no other rider of his day can touch him?

Let's assume for a second that he was still great, but not quite as extraordinary as he is: he would have at least one very good rival: Sete. Perhaps also Biaggi. And then people would go on extolling the virtues of a great rivalry between these three riders and how interesting and entertaining MotoGP is because of that.

To me, the best illustration of the greatness of Rossi is the difficulty to find a tough match for him. He's at another level. Isn't that the epitome of greatness?
 

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Re: Rossi like Mladin are the greatest.

The funny part is one of my best friends at work is Austrailian. Trevor would laugh his ass off at KPaul for suggesting I hate Aussies. I think Mladin is a pompous, self-centered, egotistical ass, but I think the same thing of KPaul, so that doesn't exactly make me hate a nation, now does it? On a side note, pointing out that Mladin is a jerk doesn't say he is not a fine rider. He is.
 
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