Steve, while I agree with you about gvt. nannying us to death, you miss one big difference w/ military. As long as you wear that green or blue suit you are gummit property. The gvt. generally has a considerable investment in time money and training that they would rather you not destroy by doing something stupid. Having said that, as I remember, most of us were, or at least acted, about half crazy when we got back from Nam. It's a wonder most of us survived various stupid antics involving booze, cars, and motorcycles.