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Those people suck!

Are you talking about men or women? Because I see a lot of men doing the above. Poseurs suck, whetehr thay have testicles or not.
 

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We all gotta start somewhere. Encourage even the 1st day rider. We need more bikes on the road and it ain't an exclusive club, buy a bike and you're in. Every time I ever showed a woman how to do some work on her bike she was grateful for the advice- but I waited until I could see she was stuck before I said anything- some women probably know more than I do about fixing bikes...and riding them too.
 

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I hate to say it, but I usually assume that other people on bikes are guys. Let's face it, we're a huge majority out there. In my defense, I must say that I'm always pleasantly surprised and happy to see women riding bikes. I've been trying to talk my wife into getting her own bike, but she's pretty happy playing passenger these days. At least she loves riding, right? More power to you, ladies. I'm glad that you're out there too.

-Paul
 

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First, hats off, or in this case, HELMETS off, to all the girls out there with the courage to ride. Women face additional problems guys don't usually have to to ride: shorter legs, and less overall and upper-body strength. As far as most people assuming it's another guy on the bike, well, in my opinion, that's justified by the fact that the majority of people on bikes ARE guys. Assuming that a girl is a **** just because she's on a bike, well, I don't think the stats would back that up, and besides, who cares? Personally, I'm glad to see 'em out there. Keep the shiny side up, girls.
 

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What is the deal with dropping bikes? Can this not be avoided? Why is this the major pitfall for the woman motorcyclist? I have never dropped my R1, or my GSXR600 (I suppose $400 for a new lower provides good incentive to be careful and skillful in handling a stationary motorcycle.) I really don't think it's even that hard to keep it upright. I only know one person that has dropped his bike, ever, and he was trying to impersonate Vanilla Ice at the time. Unless you posess muffed motor skills, it isn't that hard to keep the paint off the ground.
 

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*Don't get out of the way when someone faster gets on their tail up racer road.



Nobody is obligated to do this. Some, like myself, choose to do it. In my case because I'm worried some squid is going to cut me off causing me to crash. We're just another vehicle on the road. If you want to get by us, find a safe place (at least for the vehicle being passed, I don't care if you run into oncoming traffic) and pass.



If you want to race, get on the track. Oh, nobody is obligated to get out of your way there either.
 

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You're a jerk. Why is it that if somebody rides a 250 or even something like a Ninja 500 or GS500 they're a wimp. Everybody has to start somewhere, and has to start on something they feel comfortable on. Not everybody starts on a CBR/GSXR or other top sport bike. And most who do are morons, because they don't have the slightest idea how to handle what they're riding.



I know a guy with a Ninja500 and a 250. He sold the 250 to his sister, then bought it back when she decided she no longer liked it. On a group ride one day I was noticing how small his bike looked. When we stopped, I noticed he was on his 250 not his 500. Couldn't tell the differnce, and he was still going quick enough to keep up with several 600 & liter-class sportbikes.
 

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Dropping a bike happens to lots of people. Maybe women have it happen more because of short legs, and reduced strength. I know I've dropped bikes several times in my 3 years of riding. It mostly has to do with my height, and the fact that I don't touch the ground well both feet. Also my first bike was very top heavy, so once it started to tip, it was gone.



 

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Not Abe_Foreman, he's a god, he's never dropped his bike.



Glad to see another person admit that this happens. I've had a couple occasions where picking the bike up by myself was nearly impossible. One was turning around in a driveway. When the bike tipped over, it had the wheels up on the driveway, and the bike in the street. Making it very hard to get any leverage on the bike before meeting resistance. I did ask a passer by for help.
 

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No sir, I would attribute the fact that I haven't dropped a bike yet to the fact that I'm not an idiot. It isn't rocket science.



I'm not the only one with a perfect bike-dropping record either, as I said earlier. I guess I just happen to ride with the only perfect people in all of motorcycling!
 

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I've had one honest low-speed tipover. It was with my Kawasaki Concours - nearly 700 lbs with a full 7.5 gal fuel tank - talk about top heavy. I was trying to get around a friend's car in his driveway, drove up onto the lawn and lost momentum, and was too far off the ground to get a foot down. When it came to rest, it was lying past horizontal, and there was not a chance of budging it - in fact I may have been stuck under it. I had to get my friend help me to lift it back vertical. I'm 6'3" and 210 lbs, so it can happen to anyone of any size. If you're smaller and thus, weaker, I can see where this could happen more easily. Even on a much smaller, lighter, shorter (seat height) bike, I can imagine a situation that could result in me dropping it.
 

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I am not the most macho male. I like Deanna Carter and Selena. But when I *crashed* (yes, I am human) my 600, I certainly could pick it up. I can understand a girl's inablility to pick up a bike in most cases, but for crying out loud man! You're a man (or so you say!) Do you only ride (and drop) full-dress Harleys?



By the way, in spite of their apparent inability to keep the bike right-side-up (and I refuse to belive that there is no girl that can do that) I also love girls that ride sportbikes (although I have seen precious few.)
 

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I have to agree with stevegrab: you're a jerk. My wife rides a Ninja 250, but not because she's a wimp. The Ninja 250 is the only sportbike she can fit on, and she doesn't want to ride a cruiser.



It would certainly be nice if the manufacturers would wake up and realize that there are plenty of women who want to ride sportbikes but aren't tall enough for the current offerings.



BTW, I've ridden her bike many times and enjoy riding it almost as much as my own CBR600. The Ninja 250 is in no way a toy bike. It cruises at highway speeds comfortably, and it handles faster than just about any bike I've ever ridden.





-john



 

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I can relate to that...

Admittedly it was 36 years ago, I was a 85-pound-soaking-wet beanpole, and the machine was a 250cc Ducati thumper of uncertain vintage. During my first attempt at the land speed record for a normally aspirated rat bike in a plowed field, I found a boulder with an ice berg-like 10 percent showing. Front wheel was bent beyond the capacity to roll -- so I had to carry the front and drag the rear. I got back to the house around sunset. I can still hear my Mother screaming about the blood and my Dad laughing his ass off. If you're relatively small or weak, living with a motorcycle becomes an exercise in finesse and caution. Good on Airyn for not giving it up. Thank God I outgrew that crap.
 

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Re: I can relate to that...

Sarcasm is the lowest form of humor. Of course, this response assumes your insult threshold and IQ are normal. On second thought, I regret the assumption.
 
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