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Looks uncomfy as hell...
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(in other words, I've been watching this for months - since Daimler and GM were in negotiations over the possible sale, and didn't just Google it 5 minutes ago)
It's the Northwest - if you don't ride in the rain - you don't ride.
socko owns six of them

If I didn't have a budding engineering mind I don't know what I would do with myself.
Well, why don't you go stand in the middle of it and see what comes barreling-down on you.
Yep I know.. When I ride it messes up my suit..and I need a hard pack for my computer.
My dad knows farmers that used biodiesel in the '70s and '80s in their farm equipment. They switched back to petrodiesel when it became cheaper again.
Ooooh!! Let's talk ANOTHER ren/res! = Windpower!

Wind Power Construction Grows 27%

"Washington, D.C.-based American Wind Energy Association (AWEA) reported in April that installed wind-generating capacity grew 27% in 2006. This increase was led by Texas, which surpassed California as the state with the most capacity. Washington doubled its capacity, moving up two spots to No. 5. Wind farms exist in 36 states, says a report issued by the National Academy of Sciences. According to the report, wind farms could generate 2% to 7% of the nation's electricity within 15 years. On the heels of this report, Denmark-based wind-turbine maker, Vestas, announced it will build a $60 million plant this spring in Windsor, Colo., to produce 1,200 wind turbine blades per year."
And ANOTHER!!!

WFU Researchers Increase Efficiency of Plastic Cells

"Researchers at Winston-Salem, N.C.-based Wake Forest University (WFU) have increased the efficiency of plastic solar cells to more than 6%, double the previous standard. The plastic solar cells could make it easier and less expensive for consumers to use solar energy for heat and electricity. According to the center, the increase in efficiency came by creating 'nano-filaments' within the plastic, which allowed the researchers to create thicker solar cells that absorb more sunlight. A solar cell uses that light to stimulate electrons within the solar cell. The stimulated electrons generate an electrical current, which can then be passed into calculators, car batteries, and other devices through an external circuit. The technological advance came after nearly four years of research.

Plastic solar cells are lighter and cheaper than traditional silicon solar panels. 'Plastics are here,' says David Carroll, director of the Center for Nanotechnology and Molecular Materials at WFU. 'Plastics can do the same job that silicon can do. You've now got a device that's good enough to start thinking about a commercial product.'
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He's right, I see people driving old diesel VW cars around Seattle with stickers saying they buy biodiesel from the pump in Ballard that sells it.



I see one every week or so. Usually they're out of gas by the side of the road, rolling out their sleeping bag.
kreb sickle aren't you still stinging from our last encounter. Do you want me to give you the business again today? Hey after you go to jail you will be living in a VW Bus down by the river (Chris Farley Saturday Night Live voice)
Yes, But....

I think given a little time and engineering, you could design an IC engine to run on almost any combustible liquid. Alcohol works great, french fry oil, etc. The problem in my mind is that once any particular energy source becomes widely used, the price will inevitably go up. Nobody wants to use less energy, we all want to use more energy, more cheaply and with less environmental impact. I consider "Flex Fuel," biodeisel, and similar fuels stop-gap remedies with no real future. Eventually, the cost will rise or the environmental impact will be prohibitive. Growing corn, for instance, isn't exactly environmentally friendly. Even wind farms suck if you have to live near them. Hydroelectric screws up the rivers, solar is still a long way out.

A long time ago, my chemistry teacher laid out a simple hydrogen based energy economy. Nuclear power plants produce cheap, clean electric power, at far less risk and with vastly reduced pollution than coal or oil. (I'll argue the nuclear waste versus the coal ash waste disposal or the "safety" of oil versus nuke plants, with anyone who's interested). The nuke plants provide the "static" energy via the power grid. You can run battery cars and bikes that way. For more robust, higher capacity requirements, you use the cheap electricity to make hydrogen. You can burn it, producing water and air for exhaust, or power fuel cells (as on the Space Shuttle) for lots of power in a small package.

After WWII, the predictions were for electricity that would be too cheap to meter. You'd pay a small service fee for the facilities to produce and deliver it. However, free energy means a free society, and takes a lot of money out of too many pockets. But, revolutions have happened before, and I think it won't take too many years of high petroleum prices before we're all open to some new ideas. By the way, using petroleum for fuel is like burning the contents of the Library of Congress to stay warm. Petroleum is vastly more valuable to us in the long run for plastics, medicines, paints, or the other thousands of non-fuel uses. Our kids are going to hate us for blowing it all on fuel.
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Excellent Post.

Nukeyleer (Bush voice) plants are definitely the way to go from a cheap energy stand point. The French have been going that way for years. Funny they may get the last laugh on us (if not already on the Iraq war).. French have the best medical system in the world, fastest trains, more nuclear plants. At one time France was are best ally... Remember the Statue of Liberty was gift from them.. You think us Americans are open minded enough to learn something from them.
I really do see about one per week. And this town is the center of the biodiesel revolution.
Just a little turd, making little poopy smells.
Re: Yes, But....

True. They're absolute cutthroats when it comes to internal security, accept racial profiling as common sense, and view civil liberties as being non-applicable to any non-French.

We could use some of that here for our own domestic issues.
Go read the links I supplied so you won't be so ignorant..bout such stuff..
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"...At one time France was are best ally..."

"...are best ally..."(?) it's like sandpaper on my cornea.

anywho... nicholas sarkozy was elected president of france last week - the french are going to start swapping cookie recipes with us again.
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