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I think they were feeding you some bull. I've ridden a few ABS equipped RTs and GSs and none of them made noise while breaking.



As for the usefulness of powered assist, a friend of mine only has two fingers and a thumb on his right hand thanks to a birth defect. It is very reassuring to know his bike doesn't require much lever pressure to come to a full stop when he's riding behind me.
 

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Re: nope ... it's gone

Yeah. I saw it. It was also written in semi-literate fashion... which is usual for such screed.
 

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Nothing is Deleted

It's just rated down to -1. Go to "Threshold" at the bottom of the news item, set to -1, and hit "Refresh". The post is there in all it's stupidity.
 

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Thank you for reminding me why I keep a loaded gun around.....and it ain't for the "joos".



D1ckhead.
 

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Ah, well, what do you expect from someone who thinks that you are supposed to make paragraphs by stringing together 5 word sentence fragments with "...". Go check out this slapnut's last few posts if you want an example of near-complete illiteracy.

It's sad that some people have to put down/slam other people or groups because their small penis makes them feel inadequate.
 

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I bought an R1100R in 2000 at Chicago Cycle Center, now Chicago BMW, for about $600 off the MSRP, and half price and free installation on the (in my opinion way overpriced) windshield and hard bags. I suspect they might have gone even a bit lower if I had pushed harder, but I didn't. BMW had just reduced the MSRP on that model from $10,500 to $9,000, so it seemed like a pretty good deal at the time. And it still does. The bike has been very reliable, has none of the surging I have read so much about, and what buzzing there initially was pretty much went away after the first 6,000 miles or so. It is very easy to do 500 miles at a pop on it, and my hands never go to sleep like they did when it was new, though I could use a little more leg room. Maybe some day I'll get a peg lowering kit or highway pegs or something, but I digress.



Incidentally, in the year or so before BMW lowered of the price on the R1100R the euro lost about 15% on the dollar, which was pretty close to the amount they cut off the price of the bike. HOwever, they did not lower the price on the RT or GS, which I understood were much better sellers at the time. The euro has climbed significantly v. the dollar over the last year, though BMW has yet to raise prices if the exchange rate indeed affects the price of its bikes. From what I understand, BMW prices are a little more competitive with Japanese bikes in other countries, so it may be that BMWNA still has a pretty good margin to play with despite currency fluctuations. With the current give-away financing deals, BMW now seems to be intent on capturing market share at the expense of unit profit -- make it up in volume, or something like that. They are certainly trying to change their image and appeal to younger buyers. That suggests to me that they may be willing to negotiate price even on top of the unbelievable financing deals. But who knows? It probably has more to do with local demand and how hard up your local dealer is to make a sale. Anyway, good luck with it.
 

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Hay longride,

Is it possible to have this post actually removed instead of down-rated? I can understand not wanting to censor the site, but this surpasses anything I've ever seen on this site for sheer offensiveness, and it is certainly much more offensive than the curse words that are automatically screened out.
 

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Nope. And those power brakes come in mighty handy when somebody cuts you off in an intersection while you're trying to program your GPS ...
 

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Unfortunately, it was run by several million folks who shared, or at least submitted to, our friend above's world view. Not stupid -- evil.
 

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Even this turd has the right to his opinion, just as we have the right to point out that he is an idiot. VWW
 

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All the more reason not to let this type of malignancy fester in the secrecy of censored speech. If this type of stupidity is publicly aired then it's purveyors will surely be shouted down by the masses of right thinking people. VWW
 

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For all that $$$ they still have not gotten the surging problem completely fixed on the new generation boxer introduced in '93. I don't think BMW even fully acknowledges this flaw since they state that the new boxer dual spark design was not to correct any "surging", but to make it run cleaner. I think their inline 4 runs pretty well and I have a friend who sold his K bike with 130k on it. His current K bike has 80k.
 

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I bought a F650GS Dakar with ABS for $8600 at Chicago BMW and it retailed for $9190. I bought it late in the year (September 2002) so that helped. I also got it at a great low financing rate. I paid $165 on the note this month and $158.91 went to principle. If you have the will power maybe hold out until later in the riding season (ugh, can't believe I just said that).



Nice haggling on the R1100R for the bags and windshield. Yes, I'd agree lots (all?) Beemer products are overpriced. On the other hand, I had a price range I was willing to pay and wasn't concerned with getting the most hp for the buck. I wanted the bike that fit my needs/wants the best. The Dakar was it. Anyway, again about the bags, I'm glad you made the post because I will certainly haggle a little more for the next bike I buy.



How have you found the service at the dealership since you've owned your R1100R?
 

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It's a standard ploy of the "intellectually challenged" to blame others for their failure.

Be it blacks, whites, jews, asians, arabs, hispanics, women, men, whatever, it's always someone else's fault.

I guess it's easier to blame someone else than to admit you're too ****in' stupid to function in society.
 

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I can guaranty they haven't admitted a problem. I bought an '02 R1150RT and asked two dealers if something could be done about the surging. They both blamed me for not riding the bike properly, though funnily enough one said to let the engine lug and the other one said to rev it past the (non-exsistant) surge zone.

It took me a week and an extra $1K to trade that turd in on a Triumph and I've been happy ever since.

Though I had real positive experiances in the '80's on BMW's I have no use for them now.
 

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I believe it's MO's policy to let all posts stand. If this stuff continues from this guy, I'm sure he won't be around long.
 

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yeah what you sed
 

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I don't know about the power assisted brakes, they are a relatively new development. BMW has offered ABS on bikes since the late 80s.
 

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Anyone have any information on the new R1200GS? I hear this is due out in Germany in October, and supposedly is about 30 lbs lighter than the current model.
 
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