I'm NOT anti K bike, etc. I just get a great laugh out of ON and OTL. If you missed Gary Sibley's (aka Phatt Rat) write up trying to make the K12GT a BETTER buy than the FJR13ABS, you missed a fantastic session of watching Gary try to stuff that camel through the eye of a needle. It did not work. If you don't belong to BMWMOA (I have for 15 yrs..Airhead for 13 yrs, HSTA for 8 yrs, etc) then you have likely not read any of what I speak of and have no idea of what I speak..so there!