BMW Motorrad Adopts New Philosophy.
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Cool, better performance!!! Woo hoo!
Now, if they'll just start opening more dealers and come down on the price a bit?
I do want to live in a perfect world, don't I?
As I recall, (Perhaps some of you can help me with my history?) BMW was the first bike maker to build a 175 MPH bike. If my memory is working, they did it way back in the late 30s or early 40s? At the time both they and HD were a force to be reckoned with in racing.
I look forward to seeing if they can reclaim some of there former glory.
Now, if they'll just start opening more dealers and come down on the price a bit?
I do want to live in a perfect world, don't I?
As I recall, (Perhaps some of you can help me with my history?) BMW was the first bike maker to build a 175 MPH bike. If my memory is working, they did it way back in the late 30s or early 40s? At the time both they and HD were a force to be reckoned with in racing.
I look forward to seeing if they can reclaim some of there former glory.
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F800R
On a slightly related topic, There seems to be some slidifying of the rumour that we can expect a new F800R, but no R1200R. Which makes a lot of sense, really. The older 1150 Roadster was too close in both price and performance to teh old 1150GS, and that latter was so much more comfortable and capable, especially on long-distance, due mostly to leg-room and a dedicated aftermarket that only marginally supported the Roadster. Taking the roadster out of "short-to-medium range support bomber" and putting into the range of "Close-range air-superiority interceptor" as in the new F-bike, makes much more market-placement sense to me. BTW, those who have owned the R-bikes will understand the aeroplane references. You other lot ought to go buy one. Anywho, an F800R could be a nice upscale City-X and SV-beater. And maybe my next bike.
On a slightly related topic, There seems to be some slidifying of the rumour that we can expect a new F800R, but no R1200R. Which makes a lot of sense, really. The older 1150 Roadster was too close in both price and performance to teh old 1150GS, and that latter was so much more comfortable and capable, especially on long-distance, due mostly to leg-room and a dedicated aftermarket that only marginally supported the Roadster. Taking the roadster out of "short-to-medium range support bomber" and putting into the range of "Close-range air-superiority interceptor" as in the new F-bike, makes much more market-placement sense to me. BTW, those who have owned the R-bikes will understand the aeroplane references. You other lot ought to go buy one. Anywho, an F800R could be a nice upscale City-X and SV-beater. And maybe my next bike.
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I do understand the aeroplane references, and appreciate them. Back in the old days, BMW used to make what aeronuts would call 'all-weather fighters', but nowadays they seem to be leaning towards making fair-weather interceptors. I'm not sure this is a good thing.
And can you all find something else to moan about with BMWs besides the price? As I'm sick of telling you, in the rest of the world BMWs are very competitively priced; it's only in the US, where the Japanese discount so heavily to grab market share, that the BMW's price seems high. And in parts of the world where the weather is less than perfect, the way BMs hold up against corrosion and other crud makes them a better deal if you intend to own them for a long time.
I do understand the aeroplane references, and appreciate them. Back in the old days, BMW used to make what aeronuts would call 'all-weather fighters', but nowadays they seem to be leaning towards making fair-weather interceptors. I'm not sure this is a good thing.
And can you all find something else to moan about with BMWs besides the price? As I'm sick of telling you, in the rest of the world BMWs are very competitively priced; it's only in the US, where the Japanese discount so heavily to grab market share, that the BMW's price seems high. And in parts of the world where the weather is less than perfect, the way BMs hold up against corrosion and other crud makes them a better deal if you intend to own them for a long time.
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Indeed, I recall that nothing ever fell off my two Harleys. It was all rusted solid. At least BM had the kindness to galvanize the bolts in the engine and exhaust hangers.
Indeed, I recall that nothing ever fell off my two Harleys. It was all rusted solid. At least BM had the kindness to galvanize the bolts in the engine and exhaust hangers.
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Everyone who has owned one tells me how bullet-proof and repairable they are and I believe it. I would really like to own a Boxer one day (BTW the F800R is not a Boxer ?). But in my market (midwest US) everything is cheaper including the Triumphs and Guzzis, not just the Japanese bikes. I had my eye on the R1150R and now I understand it is discontinued.
Everyone who has owned one tells me how bullet-proof and repairable they are and I believe it. I would really like to own a Boxer one day (BTW the F800R is not a Boxer ?). But in my market (midwest US) everything is cheaper including the Triumphs and Guzzis, not just the Japanese bikes. I had my eye on the R1150R and now I understand it is discontinued.
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Now you've really got me started - Triumphs in the US are only 60 percent of what they are at home, and I live only an hour's drive from where they're made. How come a flight across the Atlantic works out cheaper than an hour's drive?
Seriously, about the R1150R. I know they've just been discontinued, but why do you have to buy new? There are loads of used ones about, and there's no better used buy than a BM. Are you expecting it to be worn out and ready for the scrapheap at two or three years old? I'd buy - and indeed have bought - used BMs with 50,000+ miles on them which have run well for years afterwards. Don't wait for another riding season to go by, just buy the thing. You know you want to.
Now you've really got me started - Triumphs in the US are only 60 percent of what they are at home, and I live only an hour's drive from where they're made. How come a flight across the Atlantic works out cheaper than an hour's drive?
Seriously, about the R1150R. I know they've just been discontinued, but why do you have to buy new? There are loads of used ones about, and there's no better used buy than a BM. Are you expecting it to be worn out and ready for the scrapheap at two or three years old? I'd buy - and indeed have bought - used BMs with 50,000+ miles on them which have run well for years afterwards. Don't wait for another riding season to go by, just buy the thing. You know you want to.
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>>he R1150R is a great all-around motorcycle
Also, if you already have a klr or other gs, this roadster is lower to the ground for more comfortable street riding . . .
Also, if you already have a klr or other gs, this roadster is lower to the ground for more comfortable street riding . . .
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