BMW Sales Jump
21 - 40 of 48 Posts
Re: Lighten up!!
Since when is it Un-American to have an alternate opinion? Last I checked, I had the right to voice my opinion, whatever it may be, even if it doesn't agree with yours. Who made you the US minister of information?
I drive a foreign car bought from a dealership owned by americans, staffed by americans, and who uses american shippers and vendors. So what's your point? Should I go out and buy an American car regardless of its quality or preference simply to be a flatulent "patriot" such as yourself?? I think not. BTW, why don't you do some research on your "American" car companies and see how many of their shareholders are Americans.
But no, you sir prefer to be the poster child of ignorance, regurgitating whatever crap the media tell you is American at the moment. You're such a $hithead.
Since when is it Un-American to have an alternate opinion? Last I checked, I had the right to voice my opinion, whatever it may be, even if it doesn't agree with yours. Who made you the US minister of information?
I drive a foreign car bought from a dealership owned by americans, staffed by americans, and who uses american shippers and vendors. So what's your point? Should I go out and buy an American car regardless of its quality or preference simply to be a flatulent "patriot" such as yourself?? I think not. BTW, why don't you do some research on your "American" car companies and see how many of their shareholders are Americans.
But no, you sir prefer to be the poster child of ignorance, regurgitating whatever crap the media tell you is American at the moment. You're such a $hithead.
Joined
·
3,415 Posts
Thats a pretty thin argument against buying a bike or any other product. in a world economy almost every product has multiple part sources. I've had a BMW R100RT and a K100RS, both fun bike's and I may well buy another at some point. As far as the political position of other countries who said they have to agree and support us? the french have been pompous assholes for 100 years. I lived in Quebec when I was a kid and I can honestly say my opinion of them hasn't changed because of current affairs. Germans are a whole 'nuther trip but they build some fine machinery, when I get around to adding another bike to the fleet I'll at least check BMW out. (then go buy a Triumph)
Whoa there, remanking. In what way is a BMW 'archaic'? When the current series of boxers came out in '93, they were ( and in some cases still are) the first bikes to have:
1. Front suspension which keeps trail constant under braking, and avoids the problems of telescopic forks;
2. No cycle frame, just subframes attached to the engine unit, thus getting away from the motor-in-a-cycle we've been stuck with for the last 100 years( yes, I know about Vincents, but they don't make them any more);
3. Digital engine management systems;
4. Second generation ABS;
5. Adjustable ergonomics;
6. A catalyser;
7. Compensated parallelogram rear suspension to avoid shaft-jacking;
8. Heated grips for all -weather riding
9. The ability to actually fix a flat by the side of the road in real-world conditions
10. 50 to the gallon at a constant 80 mph in real-world conditions.
Archaic? Nobody else has even gone half-way to catching up!!!
1. Front suspension which keeps trail constant under braking, and avoids the problems of telescopic forks;
2. No cycle frame, just subframes attached to the engine unit, thus getting away from the motor-in-a-cycle we've been stuck with for the last 100 years( yes, I know about Vincents, but they don't make them any more);
3. Digital engine management systems;
4. Second generation ABS;
5. Adjustable ergonomics;
6. A catalyser;
7. Compensated parallelogram rear suspension to avoid shaft-jacking;
8. Heated grips for all -weather riding
9. The ability to actually fix a flat by the side of the road in real-world conditions
10. 50 to the gallon at a constant 80 mph in real-world conditions.
Archaic? Nobody else has even gone half-way to catching up!!!
Joined
·
446 Posts
Look how she runs.
There is a *slight* low-speed surge, BUT
1) the Adventure model has a significantly shorter first gear than the standard 1150GS (and the rest of the R-bikes, as well) so even when my road speed is realy slow, I am turning the engine quickly enough to keep out of surge territory. I other words, I have to be going about 2-6mph to notice any surge on my bike. Even then it has to be steady speed; accelerating through the low-speed stuff produces no Even at 6-7mph it smoothes out. Literally, the only time it surfaces is when I am crawling at walking pace in bumper-to-bumoer traffic, which I've since learned to avoid by learning side roads.
2) My dealer has two of about 28 BMW Certified Master Techs in North America, and a good wrench can dial it in really well. They have told me not to fiddle with it until the bike is entirely broken in, which is apparently around the 12-15k mile mark on these R-bikes.
But how often to I stay at that low speed, really? The shorter first gear (shorter sixth, too) are for more tractability off-road, since the Adventure is the really "butch"version of the bike.
In short, she runs great at 4k miles in a month-and-a-half. Wouldn't quite give my left one for this bike, but I didn't have to. Now I have this crazy idea to pick up a used F650 and motard it for more twisty-fun-day stuff. Of course, I also hve an idea to cafe the heck out of a two-year-old R1200C. But this Adventure is really all teh bike I could *need.*
There is a *slight* low-speed surge, BUT
1) the Adventure model has a significantly shorter first gear than the standard 1150GS (and the rest of the R-bikes, as well) so even when my road speed is realy slow, I am turning the engine quickly enough to keep out of surge territory. I other words, I have to be going about 2-6mph to notice any surge on my bike. Even then it has to be steady speed; accelerating through the low-speed stuff produces no Even at 6-7mph it smoothes out. Literally, the only time it surfaces is when I am crawling at walking pace in bumper-to-bumoer traffic, which I've since learned to avoid by learning side roads.
2) My dealer has two of about 28 BMW Certified Master Techs in North America, and a good wrench can dial it in really well. They have told me not to fiddle with it until the bike is entirely broken in, which is apparently around the 12-15k mile mark on these R-bikes.
But how often to I stay at that low speed, really? The shorter first gear (shorter sixth, too) are for more tractability off-road, since the Adventure is the really "butch"version of the bike.
In short, she runs great at 4k miles in a month-and-a-half. Wouldn't quite give my left one for this bike, but I didn't have to. Now I have this crazy idea to pick up a used F650 and motard it for more twisty-fun-day stuff. Of course, I also hve an idea to cafe the heck out of a two-year-old R1200C. But this Adventure is really all teh bike I could *need.*
To be clear then: Because BMW doesn't make a sportbike they are archaic? Kinda like saying Ferrari really should be dismissed because they don't make a SUV, right?
Dude, ride whatever you want, there are plenty of great bikes to choose from (and some of them aren't even BMWs!) but don't spout off about things you don't know. Better yet, take a Beemer for a demo ride some time. Who knows, you might even like it. If you don't, no sweat, but at least you'll be making an informed decision.
As for BMW not making a sportbike, my big 'n heavy R1150GS does an excellent sportbike impersonation, just ask the R1 and 'blade mounted squids I pass every weekend. Doin' a track day later this month . . .
Dude, ride whatever you want, there are plenty of great bikes to choose from (and some of them aren't even BMWs!) but don't spout off about things you don't know. Better yet, take a Beemer for a demo ride some time. Who knows, you might even like it. If you don't, no sweat, but at least you'll be making an informed decision.
As for BMW not making a sportbike, my big 'n heavy R1150GS does an excellent sportbike impersonation, just ask the R1 and 'blade mounted squids I pass every weekend. Doin' a track day later this month . . .
21 - 40 of 48 Posts
