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Oh its ok for you to bash, but not me right, come on bro. 12yrs in dealers and you think I'v never tasted the competition?

Wish I could find you trollin around your Logans Canyon. Now that would be fun, hell I'd even give up my real bike and ride any buell for that opportunity.

Underestimation can be a ***** sometimes!
 

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Xb9r was the best I'v ridden tons of tourqe,and alot of fun. That was until I recently threw a leg over the new 1125r which is not built by E.Buell but rotax as you all know.

That thing is a beast, but still has nothing on any of the Japanese/Italian liter bikes of today.


Seruzawa how many Japanese/Italian 1000cc, 750cc, or even 600cc machines have you rode? Do you have any real seattime on any of these bikes? And Iam not talking about ten years ago. Iam talking recently? Since you seem so convinced I'am all talk and no experience.
 

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Its so nice too see you backin up your buddy, and taking it way out of context, as usual. The conversation had nothing to do with what you've stated. I'll bring you back, all he said was I had never rode one, and he's wrong. Thats all, you dont have to drum up 99.99% of riders,jezz. Talk about egos?
 

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Sorry longride sometimes your sarcasam seems to be pointed at me, I apologize, sorry again! I thought because I'v only heald as high as a number 7plate at best that you were refering to me.

However I do think the Buell's have come a long way since their first design. Just wish it would cut a hole through the Japanese bikes so we Americans could race our own Brand, and represent the U.S manufacture.
 

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I'm convinced. I have a great running 2006 Buell XB12Ss. Will someone please take it off my hands? If you have a truck, you can just have it. I need a superior bike but can't afford to keep this heap and something severely less comfortable but faster above 10K rpms.

See how stuuuuuupid that sounds? I know because I used to make that same argument when I was 18 and loved my buddy's CBR600F3. Grow up MOKE, I did.
Argument? no argument here, your buell looks fine underneath you. Is it a crime because I choose something other than your bike? You can ride what you like and I can ride what I like? We both have our reasons for choosing what we ride, I dont think mine is superior, but its proven more competitive.

Have you seen a class thats races Buells and Japanese together other than Moto-st and seen Buells winning?
When they go head to head and the Buell's come out on top, time and time again,...I'll buy one, and race it.

Until then I'am never growing up if thats whats involved. I'll stay young and stupid. Call me crazy but I havent seen a Harley or a Buell continuously beating Mladins Suzuki week in and week out.

So, your Buddies bike was'nt even your bike? Baahhh
 

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"Call me crazy but I havent seen a Harley or a Buell continuously beating Mladins Suzuki week in and week out."

How many times did you beat Mladin this year on what you are riding?
How many times have you beat him on your cruiser? Thats not what's in question here, dont change the subject.
What's in question is how many buells beat mladin week in and week out, need the answer,...never!
 

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You're funny Moke.

I haven't seen any Suzukis beating the HDs on the 1/2 mile lately. Ever heard of dirt track, the most entertaining motorcycle racing of all? Nothing beats the flat track. Try it.

http://www.californiabikeweek.com/cbw/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/img_4011-s600px.jpg
Why does it take a change of subject to win the argument, guess you cant stay on point to win this discussion, is that all you have, guess so. try again.

Have you ever heard of the tl motor in dirt track? Its taken some wins if Iam not mistaken.
 

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Everyone can jump on me if you choose, but the simple fact is NO HARLEY EVEN BUELL HAS NOT BEATEN ANY JAPANESE MANUFACTURE IN OH,...FOREVER, IN SUPERBIKE,...PERIOD! SO STOP YOUR CRYING. Iam the first to buy when they can prove themselves.
 

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Even the mighty VR1000 couldnt do it, and they couldnt even finish a race,....with russell at the controls. WUWT?
 

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"How many times have you beat him on your cruiser?"

Same amount of times you did! NONE! And since you are the greatest rider on the best bike, I guess that means you and me are still tied.
Boy you cruiser guys sure like to gangbang on someone whos at least had a bit of experience, dont ya. Least I have experience other than Logans Canyon. Hahahahahhahahha.
 

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"How many times have you beat him on your cruiser?"

Same amount of times you did! NONE! And since you are the greatest rider on the best bike, I guess that means you and me are still tied.
At least I'v been on the same track as him at the same time,...you all you do is talk....but keep it comin if it makes you feel more validated.
 

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I just mean it's immature to say "it's not the fastest on a racetrack? Yawn." Which is basically what you did. Because you certainly cannot argue a Buell of any kind, save the Blast, is not fast on a racetrack. It's narrow-minded to do that because there are a million and one reasons to ride a motorcycle and amateur racing is pretty much the smallest reason that people do it. Maybe the people at Buell thought about this and decided to cater to a larger audience who doesn't really care about what happens between you and your buddies one weekend a month when the weather cooperates. Have I seen a class where Buells beat Japanese brands? No. Have I seen any class lately? Nope. Who cares? I just don't give a damn.

And is there something funny or demeaning about a friend of mine owning a particular bike ten years ago? I don't get it...
Did you not read what I said,... THEY ARE NOT COMPETITIVE WITH *** BIKES AND NEVER HAVE BEEN. Do you realize they form their own class cause they cant run with the Japanese bike's,....h e l l o?

I' never said they were not fast on a track, I said they cant compete against the japanese bikes on a track? What dont you get? Jezz?

If Buell could beat the Japanese they would, period. They cater to another class of people because they cant beat the Japanese? Figure it out its so obvious,...Duhhh.
 

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You guy's seem to wait in the shadows to pounce on someone that dissagree's with you, and fill their mouths with words, half the crap you've said in your post I never mentioned. Never said my bike was superior,Never said I beat Mladin,never said I was
the greatest rider, never said anything like that?


You guys seem really threatened when someone has a difference of opinion, whats up with that? Iam sorry if you guys feel like Iam on some high horse, I dont view my comments as such, I just dont care for Buells, is that so wrong here, cant I speak my opinions on a free web site, apparently not, without taking a beating.

None of you roadrace, thats cool, I respect that, and have been trying too respect that. Obviously Iam not a proracer but I realize what it takes more so than all of you. I got into this Industry because I love to go fast on a road bike, arent we similar in some respect? It seems when you joke its ok, but when I through my opinionated jokes around no one can handle it? To me thats immature. Give it out and take it in, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Iam forty years old this month, my opinions on what real riding is will not change, so deal with it, deal with my jokes, as I do your's

If you cant take it then I apologize, but if your going to give it, expect it to come back at you. Iam not some young dumb punk thats been riding for 5yrs, I'v been at this for a long time and will not change. Maybe its because I have rode the track and raced, that you hate me, who know's. But I make no apologies for that or my opinions. So lets try to coexist in some type of rational manner, if not bring it on, cause I can go all day long!!!
 

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Dude, you need to take a breather. You are probably tired from digging that hole halfway to China by now. MOKE, I'm sure you are a good dude. 100% sure. I'm also sure you make certain statements about people or bikes, and then dig yourself real deep trying to defend those statements. I'm sure you would agree that Buells are cool bikes for those people that really like em. We also know by now you really don't like them. To argue that they suck because they can't beat Mladin on Sunday or they don't win races against this bike or that bike isn't a real good argument for most folks here. Nothing wrong with not liking a bike, but to grind the argument into the ground with more questionable statements doesn't help you here. All you had to say is that you don't care for them and leave it at that. Again, I am not bashing you, but I am trying to have you look at what you say from a different perspective. That's it.
I appreciate your statment LR, and also realize the pack will most likely turn on you aswell to some extent.

The only thing I will say about your response is I never said they sucked once, if anything its been quite the opposite. I only start to defend myself when other's are putting words in my mouth and start bashing me for my opinions which are unwarranted.

Thats fine if you guys like them, I like them too I just dont prefer them and I can appreciate the bike itself. The only reason it may seem Iam grinding it into the ground is because everyone bashes me when I dissagree nicely.

When I say something as small as yawn for example, and people tell me I'am an expert that never rode one, and have no experience, thats when I start with my real opinions and true feelings towards those types of negetive statments.

If one of you guys portrade your opinions on a site such as Wera (major roadrace site) you'd be sitting in my shoes and would take quit a bit of heat as I have here. Obvioulsy Iam on the wrong site and I know that.

Please read through this post and see how many people are coming to the wrong conclusions and putting words in my mouth. Obviously they are taking offense because I dont agree with thier opinions. Remember all that I said was Yawn and everyone else has brought it too this point, sure I'v been nasty but only when they have struck first. Thanks LR, Iam trying to see it from a different perspective but when I get jumped Iam not just going to sit here and take it, when all of my responses have been positive towards Buells, please read through again.

Iam sorry they have never competed and won against Japanese bikes on a roadrace coarse but is that my fault.I also think I said I'd be the first to buy one when they did.
 
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