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Compainion Bike.
I've been looking for a companion to my 79 R100S. I really wanted something in the same vein, yet modern. I can't wait to ride this thing. Put a set of barbacks on, a comfy seat, and some saddle bags and it'll be ready to go. Sacrilege to you sport bike guys I know.....
I've been looking for a companion to my 79 R100S. I really wanted something in the same vein, yet modern. I can't wait to ride this thing. Put a set of barbacks on, a comfy seat, and some saddle bags and it'll be ready to go. Sacrilege to you sport bike guys I know.....
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Compainion Bike.
I've been looking for a companion to my 79 R100S. I really wanted something in the same vein, yet modern. I can't wait to ride this thing. Put a set of barbacks on, a comfy seat, and some saddle bags and it'll be ready to go. Sacrilege to you sport bike guys I know.....
I've been looking for a companion to my 79 R100S. I really wanted something in the same vein, yet modern. I can't wait to ride this thing. Put a set of barbacks on, a comfy seat, and some saddle bags and it'll be ready to go. Sacrilege to you sport bike guys I know.....
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Compainion Bike.
I've been looking for a companion to my 79 R100S. I really wanted something in the same vein, yet modern. I can't wait to ride this thing. Put a set of barbacks on, a comfy seat, and some saddle bags and it'll be ready to go. Sacrilege to you sport bike guys I know.....
I've been looking for a companion to my 79 R100S. I really wanted something in the same vein, yet modern. I can't wait to ride this thing. Put a set of barbacks on, a comfy seat, and some saddle bags and it'll be ready to go. Sacrilege to you sport bike guys I know.....
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About the standing up under braking...bikes with a single front rotor are prone to standing up a lot more than a dual-rotor setup, for some reason. This is especially noticeable on bikes with a STRONG single-rotor setup, such as my Beringer-braked CR250 supermotard. I have no idea why this is the case, but my dual-rotor sportbikes don't exhibit this tendency anywhere near as much. Food for thought for the physics majors, I guess...
There's all kinds of reasons for a bike to stand up on the brakes. Too low CG, gyroscopic effect, tire profile...
I don't think I saw what size the wheels were. If the back tire is even slightly pinched, get a narrower tire and turn in will improve. Really triangular tires like D208GPs may help too. D207s (street version, not GP) just plain suck... I don't know why bike manufacturers still use them!
Gotta love that horsepower and torque though. Look at those curves... Can't argue with that at all. I really want to ride one of these things but they keep disappearing from the local dealer.
I don't think I saw what size the wheels were. If the back tire is even slightly pinched, get a narrower tire and turn in will improve. Really triangular tires like D208GPs may help too. D207s (street version, not GP) just plain suck... I don't know why bike manufacturers still use them!
Gotta love that horsepower and torque though. Look at those curves... Can't argue with that at all. I really want to ride one of these things but they keep disappearing from the local dealer.
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Naaah, not sacrilege at all. My first real streetbike was my dad's old 1977 R100S. That red, Conti replica exhausts, Mikuni Flatslides, bored a bit over, swingarm brace, etc. I miss that bike. the late Greg McQuide and I used to talk about old BMW experiences (He had an '80 motorsport I believe it was). There's nothing but good in that. Do what you want. Enjoy it however you choose. Life's too short.
Cheers,
Minime
Naaah, not sacrilege at all. My first real streetbike was my dad's old 1977 R100S. That red, Conti replica exhausts, Mikuni Flatslides, bored a bit over, swingarm brace, etc. I miss that bike. the late Greg McQuide and I used to talk about old BMW experiences (He had an '80 motorsport I believe it was). There's nothing but good in that. Do what you want. Enjoy it however you choose. Life's too short.
Cheers,
Minime
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Have they all been recalled yet to fix quality control problems? They will be...
Maybe, I'm just reading the Ghezzi-Brian Supertwin brochure and it has twin rim-mounted front rotors. They claim that this helps the bike to stand up less in corners than a normal set-up. But for one disc? Hey, anybody out there with a G-B, whydontcha take off one of the front disks and let us know if it stands up on the brake in a corner!
How 'bout including a VTR in the comparison
between the Buell and the Duc?
And since the Buell is down on HP, how does it
compare against an SV650? The 4K price
difference could buy a lot of upgrades on the
Suzuki.
The Buell is attractive, but I imagine I'm better
off just buying a VTR...
-- Michael
between the Buell and the Duc?
And since the Buell is down on HP, how does it
compare against an SV650? The 4K price
difference could buy a lot of upgrades on the
Suzuki.
The Buell is attractive, but I imagine I'm better
off just buying a VTR...
-- Michael
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Mike,
I've ridden both the VTR and the XB. The VTR is definitely faster...by a large margin. But I felt the XB was just more fun on the road. And it looks way cooler.
Ride them both and buy what makes you grin.
I've ridden both the VTR and the XB. The VTR is definitely faster...by a large margin. But I felt the XB was just more fun on the road. And it looks way cooler.
Ride them both and buy what makes you grin.
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I'm not a physics major, but I've noticed this same thing between my cruiser bike and my sport-bikes. It's is probably a coincidence.
However!, in the interest of spreading MIS-information and ridiculous half-baked theories!...
I submit the following:
I have but one, and one only, UN-educated guess:
could it be that the single rotor puts a torque on the forks when it's used? (by creating some sort of force on whichever end of the axle it's nearest to?) You know, like.. stick a pivot through a rod and then push on one end of it, it'll spin around that pivot point. Here, the pivot point is the steerer tube.
Then again, if this was the case, I'd expect the single-rotor bike to NOT stand up when taking a corner going the other direction. Say, for example, that the bike stands up going left because the rotor is on the right. Then, going right would make it turn in even more. I can't say for sure if I've noticed that on my cruiser since I don't tend to rail a lot of right-handers in the city: most right's are from a stop and at a slow-speed. Guess I'm going to have to test this now!
Then again, like I've said... it's just my half-baked, 1-cup of coffee theory. I'm sure it's got to be a lot more complicated than this.
-James
However!, in the interest of spreading MIS-information and ridiculous half-baked theories!...
I submit the following:I have but one, and one only, UN-educated guess:
could it be that the single rotor puts a torque on the forks when it's used? (by creating some sort of force on whichever end of the axle it's nearest to?) You know, like.. stick a pivot through a rod and then push on one end of it, it'll spin around that pivot point. Here, the pivot point is the steerer tube.
Then again, if this was the case, I'd expect the single-rotor bike to NOT stand up when taking a corner going the other direction. Say, for example, that the bike stands up going left because the rotor is on the right. Then, going right would make it turn in even more. I can't say for sure if I've noticed that on my cruiser since I don't tend to rail a lot of right-handers in the city: most right's are from a stop and at a slow-speed. Guess I'm going to have to test this now!
Then again, like I've said... it's just my half-baked, 1-cup of coffee theory. I'm sure it's got to be a lot more complicated than this.
-James
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. ..and Buell has great response to the problems that they have had...fix ALL the bikes! Ask Hayabusa owners about how confident they are in their subframes, some of which have broken suddenly and catastrophically, pitching riders down the road. Suzuki never recalled any of them to my knowledge and didn't cover the failure under warranty either.
Buell on the other hand had some alleged failures of the front shock eye II never met anyone who had the problem) and immediatly recalled all the shocks, on every Buell. That couldn't have been cheap, didn't do much for the corporate relaibility image, but it was the right thing to do so they did it.
Buell on the other hand had some alleged failures of the front shock eye II never met anyone who had the problem) and immediatly recalled all the shocks, on every Buell. That couldn't have been cheap, didn't do much for the corporate relaibility image, but it was the right thing to do so they did it.
$10k? $8k and I am listening.
I must admit, I love the way the Firebolt looks. It's gorgeous! Though I have given the bike much consideration, I don't plan to buy one. Reason? $10k price tag, are you kidding me? There are so many bikes that offer more value and performance at that price point. Which ones, take your pick, any of the 4 cylinder UJM's 600 cc or open class. Ok, ok this bike isn't targeted against those bikes, I accept that and I have no interest or plans to buy one of those either. I have given consideration to the Ducati 900 Supersport. However the same concerns apply. 70 hp at the wheel, come on? It will be intriguing to see what type of power can be found on the Firebolt with the race kit, but that raises the price even higher. Also, I checked with progressive for an insurance quote, $1300 with a $1000 deductible! The only bikes that I have been given a higher quote have been the Triumph Daytona and the Ducati 998. I think it's fair to say that the Buell is no where near the performance league of either of these bikes. I know you are planning to compare the Firebolt to the 900SS. I am very interest in this comparison, but would you do me a favor? Compare the Firebolt , the 900SS, and the Falco. I am drooling over the Falco, I would love to see how it stacks up.
I must admit, I love the way the Firebolt looks. It's gorgeous! Though I have given the bike much consideration, I don't plan to buy one. Reason? $10k price tag, are you kidding me? There are so many bikes that offer more value and performance at that price point. Which ones, take your pick, any of the 4 cylinder UJM's 600 cc or open class. Ok, ok this bike isn't targeted against those bikes, I accept that and I have no interest or plans to buy one of those either. I have given consideration to the Ducati 900 Supersport. However the same concerns apply. 70 hp at the wheel, come on? It will be intriguing to see what type of power can be found on the Firebolt with the race kit, but that raises the price even higher. Also, I checked with progressive for an insurance quote, $1300 with a $1000 deductible! The only bikes that I have been given a higher quote have been the Triumph Daytona and the Ducati 998. I think it's fair to say that the Buell is no where near the performance league of either of these bikes. I know you are planning to compare the Firebolt to the 900SS. I am very interest in this comparison, but would you do me a favor? Compare the Firebolt , the 900SS, and the Falco. I am drooling over the Falco, I would love to see how it stacks up.
---I don't like the name "Buell" for a motorcycle. It sounds like a cross between B.M. and mewl, which is what babies without full control of their autonomic nervous systems do.
---Marketing wise, I just don't think this bike is ever going to sell. Who's going to bond with a "Buell"? "Here's my Buell, what do you think of 'er, er, 'im, er, it?"
---Marketing wise, I just don't think this bike is ever going to sell. Who's going to bond with a "Buell"? "Here's my Buell, what do you think of 'er, er, 'im, er, it?"
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