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Believe me Honda could "deny" having these clutch problems very easy. You guys just think, when you are at your redline and you drop the clutch, it never crosses your mind that something might break? When you take your 4-wheel off a 70 foot clift and the frontend breaks, do you think recall? I don't. Some of these "recalls" are not recalls at all, some people are abusing these bikes. I have owned some "used" dirtbikes and streetbikes, some look like a butcher has gotten a hold of the bike. I had a kawasaki dirtbike and I tore into the engine to fix it and it had washers on the cam brackets!
 

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That ain't nothing!

The clutch basket on my 929 blew up, causing a large chunk of metal to impact my groin with such force that my testicles were blown through my abdomen and knocked my kidneys out onto the street! My small intestine then unravelled through the holes in my side, became jammed in the rear wheel, causing it to lock up, and the resulting skid sent me off a cliff. I survived the hundred-foot fall by landing on my innards (they make quite a soft pillow), though I shattered both my legs and had to crawl back to civilization with my intestines dragging behind me. Thank God for modern surgical techniques! They never found my testicles, though.

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The Communist ways of MO

It looks like MO has taken some posts/replies out of this section that weren't in happy favor with its points of view. I guess freedom of speech doesn't apply to MO. Or are you just acting like babies since everyone is pissed off that you didn't do what you said you would with the 600 shootout? Loser bastards.
 

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All bikes are built to perform reliably when they are used in a way that fits the style of bike. Some do this better than others. Sport bikes are built to withstand a certain degree of abuse. Go beyond that limit and they break. Clearly Honda feels like the clutch basket should maintain it's integrety under multiple hard launches. Give them credit for that. Many people buy Hondas because of this kind of corporate responsibility including myself. You see this degree of attention to detail in the manufacturing process all the way through to how Honda treats it's customers after the sale. Honda sets the standard for others to follow if they dare!
 

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I wish Suzuki would get on the Honda Customer satifaction band

wagon. I have a 1997 Tl1000s that lost its clutch at 6000 miles

and all I got was a bill for 150.00 to have it replaced. Suzuki

totally denied that this is a problem on early tls's. I really

enjoy my tls, but because of customer service issues I will

probally not buy another Suzuki. Their lose Honda's gain.
 

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Bravo Bravo well said. Honda has been and is by far the leader in this industry as far as fit and finish.

I also feel they are truely concerned about end user

and they have a certain amount of corporate pride

invested in being honest to the buying public. This and many other reasons is while I will always have hondas products on my short list.
 

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Re: Harley ain

Do you really want to know the problem with Harley?? They are nice enough machines but where do they get off charging those prices for bikes that are so technologically challenged?? Yeah Yeah I know market demand. For all the quarters they have spent in the black you would think they would have made vast vast improvments to their line. Nope...not a chance. They were more worried about paying out huge lawyer and court costs to try and patent the sound of an exhaust. Then they spoon feed you all this hoopla about being American made and American pride all the while using some foreign parts and selling lines of clothing all made in the far east...practice what you preach I always thought. None of this a personal attack on you...just the truth about Harley. Safe riding!
 

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Re: The Communist ways of MO

Hmm, missing posts. I once thought there was a problem because I would see threads, and then clicked on them but they wouldn't show any thing.

I've seen a few posts about them removing comments, which I find very alarming. Rating them, censoring them (for profanity), is fine. But completely removing them because they (MO) doesn't agree with them, is wrong.

Check out the comments for this story. When I was writing this, it said 21 comments (underneath the actual story), but I only counted 19. On the AHRMA 2001 Schedule story it says 9 comments, but I only count 5.

This was with my threshold set to "-1". At first I thought I just wasn't viewing them all, so I changed my threshold to "-1", but there were still missing comments.

MO if you're going to remove the comments, cover your tracks and update the counter so it isn't so apparent.
 

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I agree that Honda is one of the best for this kind of stuff, but I think that much of the user perception of post-sale treatment is largely controlled by the dealer. It's only with big stuff like recalls that you see the manufacturer's opinion shine through.
 

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Gotta love all the honda owners sucking the life out of this one! I had no problem going to the YAMAHA dealer for FREE front brake pads, Side Stand bolts or them pesky radiator hose clamps they recalled. I love all the comments on how honda leads in the industry, but compared to Who? I have had not 1 problem with my R-1 and I'm sure theres a few 100,000 people with 900RR's that havn't had problems either. The problem is the abuse given to these machines for which these recalls are based on. I think it's great that honda is going the extra mile to solve this potential problem, but thats no reason for all these other whiners to post comments on kawasaki or suzuki not conforming. Well like usual we have a titled subject that has brought all the roaches out of the cracks complaining about completely unrelated problems. Hail to honda not for being superior, but for fixing a potential hazard promptly.
 

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Re: Replacement doesn't mean recall ?

What I want to know is where are all the slack-jawed nipple chewers that have honked on Suzuki about recalls now ? I had a thread going with some bozo a couple of weeks ago about how he loved his CBR and had no problems with it and Suzuki couldn't say the same about any of their bikes... What I said to him was that when you push the performance technology of bikes you can have some problems. He didn't even know about any recalls that were done on Yamaha's R1 and now we have a Honda with it's second recall. Pushing the envelope ? I think so !

All of the big four Japanese makers want to get the bikes right especially in America. Lawsuits can cost them big money over here and that's one of the reasons they recall parts. Even Ducati has had recalls on the 996/748 models, so no one is immune to this. Free replacement should be a given since most of the bikes that were recalled would still be under warranty. It's nice to see some humor about losing body parts though due to this. And to think all I got was gas burns on my nuts from the tank recall on my TL. :p
 
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