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Chain and Sprockets Swap

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"MO: Some of us lube after rides, some before. What’s the difference?

BC: The reason we say lubing the chain after the ride as opposed to before is that a warm chain will more easily accept lubrication into the critical pin and bushing area. But, if it’s not convenient to do after the ride, then a little before will be better than none at all."
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Once again, we get a guy saying that spraying some slippery stuff on our warm chain will somehow get past the O, X, Z-ring and lubricate the pin and bushing.

Bull feathers!

How much time and money goes into designing those alphabet rings so that NOTHING gets by them in either direction, whilst creating a minimum of friction?

One more time, you clean and "oil" a chain to keep it pretty, minimize corrosion and to remove grit from the external surfaces and the sprockets.

The only thing you can do for the pins and bushings is to ensure the chain tension is correct. OK, there is another thing: DO NOT direct a jet of air or water at the chain. You can drive contamination or water, or both past the seals if you try hard enough.

I'd like to throw in that I'm a fan of the Dupont Teflon Multi-use Lubricant in an 11oz. spray can. $6 or so, available at various places, including Lowe's hardware and on Amazon (except the S&H is another $9). It's slicker than owl feces, it's dry, and it's clear. What little gets flung off makes nowhere near the mess the waxes or stringy stuff does, and it cleans off readily with WD-40. I use it every 400-500 miles.

So much for my "Quick Reply!"
 

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All I do is spray the chain with penetrating oil, wipe it clean then squirt some 75/90 Synthetic gear oil on it, let it drip for awhile then wipe off the excess. It's a little messy but it's cheap and effective, and the recommended method from Regina, DID RK etc. I've used Pro Honda clear lube in the past but plain ol' gear oil works the best.

Modern chains are basically maintenance free, just keep them clean and a oil them once in awhile to keep surface rust off them and you're good to go
 

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Well, at least it's no-longer censoring pet**** yet still letting ****sucker through. Everything is an equal-opportunity-offender.
 

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Chain lube? What's that? Oh yeah. That's that stuff I spray on when the chain gets louder than the exhaust.
 

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Chain oil threads are much like engine oil threads. It all works if you have some common sense, and it doesn't matter if you use the expensive, fancy can oil or just squirt engine oil on it and wipe it off. It all works the same. Only the price and braggin' rights at the Burger Barn will differ.
 

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I buy the cheapest chains possible and keep them scrupulosly (sic) clean, and boil them in used crancase drippings from my wife's Hondacar. Don't need no stinking o-ring, x-ring or fancy-smancy chains. Also use a quality chain lube like JT. I have never had a chain fail (except back in the bad old days when my 25+ hp AT1MX would throw the dinky 428 through the cases on a regular basis).
 

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Does know one do their own work anymore? Changing a chain and sprockets is one of those things you ought to be able to do on your own. Yeah, I know, everyone likes to ride not wrench, two mutually exclusive concepts.
 

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bbtowns is correct. People should do their own basic maintenance on their bikes. It is getting so bad that everyone wants to be like Buz; all play and no work! I am swapping out the sprockets, chain and rear tire on the Bandit as we speak. Now if it will just quit f&cking snowing!
 

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bbtowns is correct. People should do their own basic maintenance on their bikes. It is getting so bad that everyone wants to be like Buz; all play and no work! I am swapping out the sprockets, chain and rear tire on the Bandit as we speak. Now if it will just quit f&cking snowing!
I wonder how often I'll need to lube the chain on my PC800?

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bbtowns is correct. People should do their own basic maintenance on their bikes. It is getting so bad that everyone wants to be like Buz; all play and no work! I am swapping out the sprockets, chain and rear tire on the Bandit as we speak. Now if it will just quit f&cking snowing!
Watch out for that little aluminum speedo drive that's bolted to the countershaft sprocket, they break reeeeal easy......

Fortunately they're available and fairly cheap....
 

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Watch out for that little aluminum speedo drive that's bolted to the countershaft sprocket, they break reeeeal easy......

Fortunately they're available and fairly cheap....
I have it off and in a safe place! I just need to rivet the chain and snug some things up and away I go. Snow tires would help alot at this point though. :-D
 

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Watch out for that little aluminum speedo drive that's bolted to the countershaft sprocket, they break reeeeal easy......

Fortunately they're available and fairly cheap....
Who needs a speedometer on a bike as slow as a Bandit1200? It's air cooled fer heck's sake! Only 110hp or so. A real slug.

Longride's main problem is getting run over from behind by old ladies in golf carts. Or missing protection payments to his alderman.
 

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I have it off and in a safe place! I just need to rivet the chain and snug some things up and away I go. Snow tires would help alot at this point though. :-D
Brother Cuddy should have some old Barum Knobbies laying around the shop still wrapped up in wax paper, you may have to steam them or soak them in hot water to get them soft enough to stretch over the 6inch rim.....
 

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Who needs a speedometer on a bike as slow as a Bandit1200? It's air cooled fer heck's sake! Only 110hp or so. A real slug.

Longride's main problem is getting run over from behind by old ladies in golf carts. Or missing protection payments to his alderman.
Strictly speaking you don't need a speedo, the Bandito's so fast the Fuzz ain't gonna' catch you anyway.....it just looks better when you post your "out run the pigs" video on YouTube if your speedo is acurate.
 

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Strictly speaking you don't need a speedo, the Bandito's so fast the Fuzz ain't gonna' catch you anyway.....it just looks better when you post your "out run the pigs" video on YouTube if your speedo is acurate.
Don't forget that full bragging rights on YouTube require that the video show your face and house with address plainly in view and car parked in front with license plate visible.
 

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Don't forget that full bragging rights on YouTube require that the video show your face and house with address plainly in view and car parked in front with license plate visible.
Indeed.....all key points to remember!
 

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Indeed.....all key points to remember!
Without Documentation - it didn't happen. And THEN where would your Burger Barn Bragging-Rights be?
 

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I'm new to chain oiling; the HD dribbled oil from the engine on the secondary. But, I thought the reason you didn't oil an o-ring chain before you rode was because the lubes used on them had to "set up" for a few hours else they fling off.

Can we talk about motor oil for a while? Got the Syntec Full Synthetic Racing at Cycle Gear. On sale for $8 a liter! (that's MORE than a quart y'all!) Mixes nicely with Stoli.
 
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