In 1932 a guy named Robert Fulton went around the world on a Douglas Twin that was like 350cc. And you want an 800cc bike with shaft drive, good mileage and cheap insurance rates because Hogs AND sport bikes hurt your back? Pansie!
Those who buy "common sense" bikes tend to hang on to 'em for awhile, and are skeptical of the latest, greatest thing. Those people are out there, and they DO buy bikes, but not a new one every 2 or 3 years - rather a new one every 7 to 10 years.........
A minority in the moto-community, to be sure.
Manufacturers build what sells, and pieces of A$$-Jewelry and Boy-Race'A bikes are what sell the most right now.
The European view is different. Honda make the Deauville to fit precisely this slot. And sell it by the truckload to commuters in mid and southern Europe (it's built in Spain). The new 680 cc version is a real jack-of-all trades. I live in Denmark and ride most of the year round in sun, rain and low temperatures. Totally maintenance-friendly with shaft drive, heated grips, built-in panniers, etc., the Deauville will even so do 180 kph when required and would take me to the North Cape if I wanted. So they DO exist and are bought!
I hear ya for sure: folks undoubtedly are buying motorcycles for some stupid idea of cool factor not for usability and efficiency.
Moto-Guzzi Breva 750 or 1100 (or even the 850 if they bring it to North America) sounds like it might fit the bill - bit underfaired though. And pricey. And painful for parts (so I hear). And the 850 and 1100 are both on the heavy side.
I keep waiting for Suzuki to build an SV with shaft-drive:-D
You're still gonna get hassled for your choices not being other people's choices though. And called a "girl" or whatever, as though your 'equipment' somehow governs whether you can turn your right wrist.
And I reckon that's the problem - half the MOrons above are so concerned about what other people might say that they buy bikes that are too impractical to actually use on a regular basis.
But anyway, there are bikes out there do fit that middle ground - you might have to customize them a bit to make them really fit - you know, you probably won't get what you want off the showroom floor.
I think Forest has it right. In the U.S. bikes are recreation vechicles to most people. In Europe they are part of the whole transportation system. When , not if, gas prices hit $4.00 a gal. Perhaps things will change. I would definitel look at a standard, with hard bags, plus windshield or fairing, ABS, etc. if I was going to start commuting. Like Buz said it's the free enterprise system but the problem is the true cost of gas is not reflected at the pump. i.e. the taxes spent .. A study was done if we allocated the DOD budget spent on protecting the shipping lanes, etc ($55 billion to $96 billion) Gas would be $8.00 a gal. Some say even higher
So familydad right now the automobile i.e Buz's SUV is subsidized by the U.S. government in the form of low gasoline prices. I suspect if gasoline prices went up to the true cost, common sense would prevail and the pratical bikes you are talking about would sell like hot cakes.
If gas was $5/gal would you say the same? Or is it the safety thing you are talking about. Would could assume if gas was that high SUVs and other large vehicles would no longer exist and thus pose no danger. i.e. the world would be one of Honda Civics and Toyota Tacoma pickups and delivery van. However, biodiesel proponents say gas has to go to $4.00 gal to produce any kind of biodiesel boom.
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