Common Sense Motorbiking. Where Is It?
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BMW R1200RT. Short wheel base, 100HP, light-ish weight, good torque and good gas mileage. BMW gew-gaws like ABS and traction control. Low maintenance. It's about as common-sense as you can get. They're sweet rides, dude.
Oh yeah - and 150HP does improve your morning commute. Big time. Capital B.
cdg
Oh yeah - and 150HP does improve your morning commute. Big time. Capital B.
cdg
Sadly, standard bikes are apparently more appealing in markets where motos are considered practical transportation on a daily basis, instead of weekend recreation vehicles. So, anywhere scooters are big standard bikes a big as well. Here in the States standards don't sell well because bigger is always promoted as better (false as that sometimes is). We all know there are great big bikes and small bikes, but American's seem to dwell on HP. Anyone who's ridden an RD400, SRX600, GS550, etc. knows you can have a ball on a small bike, and often the less HP you have the more you have to work the bike, which in turns is more fun to me. It's easy to drive a fast on fast vehicle over-engineered for the street (since it was intended for the track), and a much more exciting challenge to get up to speed on a smaller motor.
Case in point: my former literbike was too much fun and far too easy to launch the front on, or lose traction mid-corner due to sheer HP, so I moved back down the foodchain and got a 650 V-Strom to gain back some control. The WeeStrom is only marginally less fun, and substantially more controllable to ride -- takes me to 125 without blinking and tracks and handles nearly as well as my old sportbike -- and besides the cheaper insurance, I can hit the trails too.
Case in point: my former literbike was too much fun and far too easy to launch the front on, or lose traction mid-corner due to sheer HP, so I moved back down the foodchain and got a 650 V-Strom to gain back some control. The WeeStrom is only marginally less fun, and substantially more controllable to ride -- takes me to 125 without blinking and tracks and handles nearly as well as my old sportbike -- and besides the cheaper insurance, I can hit the trails too.
Re: INTERNATIONAL CENTER FOR TECHNOLOGY ASSESSMENT report the True Cost of Gas
You figured it out yourself...that was one of many fallacies....and the trucking industry is not the oil industry so its incorrect to add these subsidys to the cost of gas. But you agree with my basic point....take it with a grain of salt(like so many "expert " studies ).
You figured it out yourself...that was one of many fallacies....and the trucking industry is not the oil industry so its incorrect to add these subsidys to the cost of gas. But you agree with my basic point....take it with a grain of salt(like so many "expert " studies ).
Re: WeeStrom 650 is EXACTLY That bike...
Picked up my '04 DL650 Strom used for $5000, with only 750 miles on it, in the States. Dropped another grand on extras -- including good rubber (the stock tires bite) -- and it's goes anywhere fast and comfortably ta boot.
Picked up my '04 DL650 Strom used for $5000, with only 750 miles on it, in the States. Dropped another grand on extras -- including good rubber (the stock tires bite) -- and it's goes anywhere fast and comfortably ta boot.
Whoa! I personally don't have any use for over-powered beasts, but I don't care if other people want them. I like to be able to use ALL of what I buy, and I figure something like the new F800ST will probably fit that bill for me.
The point of this response, however, has to do with the "Stain-resistant Dockers." I have some of those, is there really a connection to my preferred bike type??? I hate being obvious!!!!
The point of this response, however, has to do with the "Stain-resistant Dockers." I have some of those, is there really a connection to my preferred bike type??? I hate being obvious!!!!
Not trying to pick on any one group, but if you think practicality or common sense includes a $12000.00+ price tag then you missed the point long ago. I have a powerbronze voyager equipped nighthawk 750 that I paid a total of 3800 for. I commute from Albuquerque to Santa Fe (128 miles rt) 2-3 times a week on it. Most people that I work with think that I need a bigger bike and its because they have been sold on the idea that a "real" road bike is above a liter. What happend to the concept of Lighter is Faster, I dont want more power, I want less bulk.
Re: Need?
LOL But seriously, it's the future get used to it... (one eybrow lifted in the Rock voice) Just kidding. Biodiesel will allow you to hang on to your neocon, green house gas producing, red-state, excessive consumption ways... I biodiesel rotary sportbike with a turbo charger.. Next big thing kpaul says..
LOL But seriously, it's the future get used to it... (one eybrow lifted in the Rock voice) Just kidding. Biodiesel will allow you to hang on to your neocon, green house gas producing, red-state, excessive consumption ways... I biodiesel rotary sportbike with a turbo charger.. Next big thing kpaul says..
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5, 5 - Do I hear Five!?
Wegotta Five!
Gonna Seven-fiddy, Seven-fiddy, Seven-fiddy
Hup!
Sold to the Gentlemen on the ZX6 for Two-Hundred Dollaz..................!!!!!!
Wegotta Five!
Gonna Seven-fiddy, Seven-fiddy, Seven-fiddy
Hup!
Sold to the Gentlemen on the ZX6 for Two-Hundred Dollaz..................!!!!!!
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Re: INTERNATIONAL CENTER FOR TECHNOLOGY ASSESSMENT report the True Cost of Gas
Say, what html are you guys using to embed a link in text, or make a hyperlink active on this bulletin board? (As above)
This one seems to defy me for some reason, I must be doing something wrong here.
Thanks!
Say, what html are you guys using to embed a link in text, or make a hyperlink active on this bulletin board? (As above)
This one seems to defy me for some reason, I must be doing something wrong here.
Thanks!
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Re: GO TO THE HONDA, KAW, SUZUKI, and YAMAHA (STAR) SITES
Yamaha FZ6, FZ1; Honda 599, 919; Suzuki Wee-Strom and Vee-Thurmond...........
Yamaha FZ6, FZ1; Honda 599, 919; Suzuki Wee-Strom and Vee-Thurmond...........
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Re: INTERNATIONAL CENTER FOR TECHNOLOGY ASSESSMENT report the True Cost of Gas
But the interstate system is a massive subsidy to the trucking industry. Rail is cheaper by far.
Perhaps you'd like to pay my Rail Bill sometime, see just *HOW* far it is cheaper, eh?
When you ship by Rail, there are OTHER costs besides the direct price to transport your heavy-goods in bulk. One of the Big, *BIG* downsides is - You are utterly at the mercy of the Railroad's Whim - you anger your freightmaster, for whatever petty reason, you don't get your grain on time.
You then idle your Mills, cooling your heels (and your employees as well) while you wait 3 days for the local freight to set a line of cars that's been "in town" for 4 days, - the whole time you're paying demurrage charges of $100/day per car...........
Yeah, it's cheaper. /sarcasm
But the interstate system is a massive subsidy to the trucking industry. Rail is cheaper by far.
Perhaps you'd like to pay my Rail Bill sometime, see just *HOW* far it is cheaper, eh?
When you ship by Rail, there are OTHER costs besides the direct price to transport your heavy-goods in bulk. One of the Big, *BIG* downsides is - You are utterly at the mercy of the Railroad's Whim - you anger your freightmaster, for whatever petty reason, you don't get your grain on time.
You then idle your Mills, cooling your heels (and your employees as well) while you wait 3 days for the local freight to set a line of cars that's been "in town" for 4 days, - the whole time you're paying demurrage charges of $100/day per car...........
Yeah, it's cheaper. /sarcasm
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Re: Need?
I don't think the "don't need that much power" thing would come up if it weren't for the idiot squid's who go out and buy the biggest cc bike they can finance before ever stepping foot in a MSF class.
People freak out when i say this but, i still think a stepped license system like in some areas in Australia could save some lives and give motorcyclists in the USA a better image.
I don't think the "don't need that much power" thing would come up if it weren't for the idiot squid's who go out and buy the biggest cc bike they can finance before ever stepping foot in a MSF class.
People freak out when i say this but, i still think a stepped license system like in some areas in Australia could save some lives and give motorcyclists in the USA a better image.
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