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I'm not opposed to gay marriage. I'm not religious. I do generally approve of our current foriegn policy. I do live in the great Soviet Socialist Republic of New York. I do believe that we have far too many wasteful layers of government. I do believe that we have too many laws designed to "save us from ourselves." I'm pro-choice. But on the other hand, I'm totally opposed to late-term abortions. I do not think John Kerry is the anti-christ. I do not think George W. Bush is the anti-christ. I do not believe John Kerry would have solved all of our problems with the wave of his hand. I do not think George W. Bush will solve all of our problems with the wave of his hand. Given the choice, I supported George W. Bush. I don't believe that anyone should have any spiritual agenda forced down their throats. I do believe that our morals are crumbling.

So I must conclude that I'm a wishy-washy, selfish, idiotic theocrat who obviously doesn't give a hoot about anyone else and can do nothing but negatively affect society.

I'm confused.

(As for Kpaul, he asks for it. Don't overanalyze it.)

Re: Red State idiot (facts and data time again) Red State morality..

Once again, my feeble-minded friend, you miss the point. And in doing so, you've actually made my point. Ugh, this is so exhausting, but I'll bite.

My point was to illustrate that generalizations don't always paint an accurate picture of people. Take, for example, you and your ilk's assertion that everyone that voted for Bush in the heartland states is either a three-toothed ******* or some kind of religious nut. That is obviously not the case. In fact, even in the Soviet Socialist Republic of New York, Bush got about 40% of the vote--far more than what was expected.

My interpretation of the "moral values" issue is not so much about gay marriage (actually 67% of Republican voters are in favor of civil unions), but about the Left's assertions that their values should be adopted as gospel by people they deride as religious wackos and hicks. Do you really know that unrestricted abortion is not wrong? Can you really say that with any certainty? Are all of our social programs really helping disadvantaged people, or are they, in fact, keeping them in a state of controlled poverty? Do you really know the answer to that one? Is the answer to fixing our public education system to throw more money at it--when we're already spending far more money per student than any other nation--or is the problem somewhere else? I won't even begin to touch foriegn policy.

What the Left has done is demonize one man, in turn demonizing and alienating millions of people. It was a terrible tactic. And the ultimate in intellectual arrogance.

One man is not responsible for all of our problems. It's just not credible. Common people are much smarter than the Left gives them credit for.

You, my friend, are a perfect microcosmic example of that. All you do is call people who don't agree with you idiots. You refuse to accept that other people have views that should be considered. The Left has run the most insulting propaganda war for three years now. And all they can do is accuse the other side of being arrogant. It is almost inconceivable.

Michael Moore is the champion of truth and the working man?

Willie Nelson is a responsible, upstanding citizen?

Our nation should reflect the values of every drug-addicted, serial marrier, convicted criminal in Hollywood that supported Kerry?

Were they just kidding the whole time?

As for all the circumstantial attacks against Bush. using the same kind of logic, I can safely assume that Kerry is a freeloading war criminal who has twice married for money. (No, I really don't believe that.)

Re: KPail

Yeah, I watch the Daily Show and Bill Mahr's show, too. That seems to be where you're getting your material from. Keep thinking in sound bites. You'll be able to figure it all out in about, uh, never.

By the way, Bill Mahr had a guy named Andrew Sullivan on his show last night. He summed up the whole problem with your gang perfectly. He also ripped Mahr and the other Left wing apologists/conspiracy theorists/biggots/whiners real good.

By the way, Sullivan is gay, a Democrat, and was a Kerry supporter.

Mahr also had Noam Chomsky on, and treated him with extreme deference. So respectful was Bill of Chomsky, an MIT professor, an unabashed America-hater, and an ardent supporter of the former U.S.S.R., he probably would have humped his leg had he actually been in the studio instead of being on a video feed.

The Left likes to talk about the "hateful, biggoted, fear-mongering, close-minded Right." I think maybe they should look in the mirror for once.

All they've done is hate people who don't agree with them since the last election.

Re: KPail

True. But what you must remember is that the ideologues on both sides push everyone further to the extremes until most of us can't look at any issue rationally. That's basically all I've been saying since the beginning.

What I find incredible, though, is the far Left’s assertion that they own the moral high ground. That everyone who doesn’t share all of their views is either evil or amoral. They call themselves "enlightened" and "evolved" and anyone who doesn’t agree with them is subhuman. Plus, they’ve been in all out attack mode from the beginning of Bush’s first term. They’ve hated him before he ever gave them any reason. They’ve even had the gall to insist that the mainstream media was is shilling for the Republicans. And now they’re trying to float the theory that the Republicans stole this election. They can’t accept that they lost. Don’t you find this a little troubling? Sounds a bit like the Orwellian nightmare to me.

Of course, the fundamentalist Right worries me, too. But, they’re so transparent about their beliefs that they seem much easier to combat. Plus they don’t have the access to the media that the Left has.

Re: Stolen Elections

Absolutely the Right went on attack with Clinton. If you had known me then, you would have heard me say how ridiculous most of that was, too. At least, up until the time of Lewinskygate. But the level of hate was nothing close to what's been heaped on Bush.

I never loved Clinton. And I do think that some of his actions were disgraceful. But I did vote for him once.

What I find so disgusting is that these shrill Lefties are the ultimate hypocrites. They really believe it is their right to have their candidate as President. They can't imagine how Kerry could have lost. And everyone who didn't vote for him is either stupid or evil. This from the people who preach tolerance and understanding. Well, apparently, only if you subscribe to their understanding.

There are reports of vote irregularities. But consider where the reports are coming from--most are partisan web sites and publications. Apparently, some of the official numbers released don't add up at first glance either, though. I'm keeping my eye on that. Let's see if there are any plausible explainations before anyone goes screaming "FRAUD!" By the way, no one knows how these errors may have really helped either of the candidates. Apparently you didn't hear about the report of e-voting machines in Philadelphia with 2,000 votes logged for Kerry before the polls even opened. Of course not. That doesn't help the Left's cause at all. But who knows if that's true, too?

The pollwatchers in Ohio were going to be sent to challenge illegitimate voters, not clog the polls. That is really a ridicuolous spin. Fact is, the Left doesn't even want you to have to show ID when you vote. In many places you don't even have to prove who you are to vote. Is that ensuring a fair election? And since the Dems were counting on a big election turnout, and there were already reports of ficticious voters and multilple voters, I would say that that is a really weak acusation. Oh, and by the way, those pollwatchers in Ohio never showed up according to Air America Radio (you know, the Al Franken network--which I listen to a bit every day).

Let's see how the vote thing pans out.

As far as the mainstream media is concerned, I think the Right makes a far more convincing case for bias against them than the Left does. Please, most journalists in the mainstream media are admitted liberals or Democrats. And I rarely saw anything that remotely resembled critisism of Kerry. How did they treat Bush? Really, think about it.

And since when did polls superseed actual votes? Yes, the exit polls could have been wrong. For example, in consumer research people often lie. They answer in a way in which they think they should answer, not the way they really feel. But that may only be a small part of it. There seems to be good reason to question the sampling techniques. And there is also the theory that the Democrats flooded the polling places with voters to suppress later voting. Am I saying that that is fact? No.

I'm just saying the sword cuts both ways.

We often believe what we want to believe. That doesn't mean it's the truth.

Re: Stolen Elections

Yes, it is refreshing, ain't it?

A quick update on the vote controversy:

As I've been hearing from a few different political scientists, the shouts of fraud in Florida should die down a bit. Our typical arrogant and ignorant Yankee-types have been screaming how it's impossible that so many Democrats voted for Bush. Well, they were unaware of a very large group of people called "Dixiecrats" who often vote against party lines in national and state elections. "The Majority Report" on Air America (with Janine Garafalo and Sam Seder) was even forced to report this last night. I give them big props for doing the right thing.

Looks like the Ohio "more votes than voters" conspiracy is losing air, too. "The Majority Report" also reported that there seems to be a believeable explanation for having more votes than voters in some Ohio counties: Absentee ballots and provisional ballots. Looks like the conspiracy theorists forgot about them when it was conveinent.

None of this proves that there wasn't any wrongdoing anywhere, though. We should keep our eyes peeled. But please, keep your brains working, too.