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Could Pocket Bikes Help Track-Junkies?

25K views 101 replies 25 participants last post by  pdad13 
#1 ·
To answer the trackday question: I think a pocketbike would get in the way of the real bikes, but what you need to do is find one of those kids novelty go-kart tracks to race on. I've seen pocketbikes going for 450 CDN at the auto auction here. I think they're the cheap chinese knock-offs.
 
#2 ·
Pocket bikes probably wouldn't do it for me, as far as a substitute for track days. They might be fun, in the right place, but if I can't get to the track I'd rather hit the dirt.



Pocket bikes look more likely to hurt the motorcycle world, the way they are being used now. Monitarily challenged kids buying them and riding them on the road, etc... They are not meant to be on the road, but, ya can't stop Darwin...only slow him down.



And I can only hope motorcycle road racing gets half as popular as Nascar. The money for the riders, they increased visibility of motorcycles in a good light. Improved track safety, all good. The bad, the cost to run a pro race program will get even more absurd than it is allready. It would take a character (like Mr France in nascar) to bring it up in the world. Which means that they would have to pry it out of the greedy little hands of the AMA pro racing guys. Who would then be the iron fisted ruler of the series.



As far as a supplement to the track days. I would sugest that you go find a 125 or 250 dirt bike and ride it when you can't get to the track. They are cheep used, and inexpensive to own, and a blast to ride.
 
#3 ·
I'd never dream of putting a pocket bike on a real roadcourse. From what I've been reading, there's quite a bit of PB racing in the South, on Kart-tracks, airports and even parking lots And, even some Mini side-hack racing.



Me? I live in NW Pa. about 45 miles from Lake Erie. Don't know if, or when, PB racing will get up around here. Just seems like it might be a nice Cheap-Thrill, if it does.



I was checking out PBs online and, like you said, they seem to come in at $400 - $450 US, for the better Chinese models. I keep hearing about 15hp models, but I ain't found none yet. Probably a good thing.
 
#5 ·
Don't get me started on the AMA. I don't want to get sacked from here.



Besides, I'd never use words like treacherous, greedy, complacent, self-serving, arrogant, ineffective, smug, self-satisfied, autocratic or megalomaniacal to discribe the AMA.



Did I forget self-congratulating? Okay! I wouldn't say that, either



That would be wrong.
 
#7 ·
Thank ya Mr kpau.



On the behalf of my crew, NASCAR and myself, I'd like to thank Mattel Toys,Trojan Rubbers, the West Texas Mother Against Drunk Driving, and For Lethal Injection, Bubba's Adult Dance Emporium and my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ for making me richer than God, for going fast and turning left.
 
#9 ·
...I agree totally, and I'm alright with this segragation... I like the track atmosphere and if being mainstream comes at the cost of being surrounded by mullets and stars and bars I'd much rather fork out the extra cash to leave it unchanged and enjoyed by the cool few... Track riders are some of the nicest people I've come across. I'm sure we've all heard the joke that you could show up at a club race with nothing more than jeans and a T-shirt and be racing by the end of the day. Besides, it would be a real drag trying to get around a full dresser on the track... Especially with all those flags hanging off the back and Free Bird blasting on the radio.
 
#10 ·
kpaul,



Rather than put up with GWB for four more years, have you given any thought to bugging out of the USA?



But where to go? Canada's too close, and the western provinces are way too much like the US. Maybe you could join Robert Redford in Ireland? Hmm, still too close. How 'bout New Zealand? They've said that they will welcome young, energetic, highly educated, insightful and articulate professionals that are disillusioned with life in the USA under the brutal conditions imposed by GWB. Sounds just like you! Throw in the fact that you are the "Great Motorcycle Profit" and they'll have you hooked up with our own heard of sheep in no time!



Whaddya' think, MOrons? Should kpaul go to New Zealand? Should we start a collection to buy him airfare?



My vote is yes!

 
#14 ·
kpaul:



Considering you're ability to ***** people off, you very well might, as you say, be a genius.



Forget engineering...You've got a brilliant career with the CIA waiting for you, starting wars and destabilizing countries (absolutely amazing).





 
#15 ·
Wherever we send him we must make sure that they don't have nukes. Because whichever country it is they'll be declaring war on us in a few weeks.



Best to send him someplace that welcomes bigots.
 
#18 ·
One of my concerns, about motorcycle roadracing becoming really big, is the thought of some of the loonies, who now watch NASCAR, getting thier hand on open-class liter-bikes.



While the decorations would be bad enough (Hayen Rules! Valentino Sucks! blah, blah, blah) combining Free Bird, Jack D and copious amounts of horsepower might be a bad idea, image wise.
 
#19 ·
I'm not so sure that he has a particular ability to tick anyone off, really. Afterall, it's not as if he's putting a gun to anybody's head and forcing them to respond.



More than Kpaul, I think it's the other people's weakness. It's quite easy to ignore Kpaul, but for some reason, people don't. I get the feeling that those who so vociferously respond to Kpaul just have really thin skin. I mean, afterall, it's just a freaking motorcycle post. If they really didn't want to read his stuff, it's as easy as scrolling past it.



Kpaul grates me too from time to time, but all said and done, I do very much consider him a friend, just as I do those who stand in oppositon to him. I don't always agree with Kpaul's tactics, but more or less, I think his heart is in the right place.



The red states are a theocracy.



Libertarians are selfish pricks who don't give a hoot about anybody else so long as their individual interests are met.



Republicans are idiots and arseholes.



Democrats need to figure out their identity and stop being so wishy-washy.



Socialists (such as myself), really don't stand a realistic chance at affecting positive change for the betterment of society.



In the end, what I have stated, is just one person's opinion. And really, nobody needs to respond. Whether they do or not is up to them and a reflection on them as to how they respond.



Kpaul is just one man. It is amazing how one man can do so much to stir the pot. It just seems, though, that the ingredients in the pot (other MOrons) are just waiting to be stirred.
 
#22 ·
It's been working for Harley for years. The same rubes who think nascar is real racing think V-TWIN THUNDER(tm) equals mass horsepower

All you need is a plastic milk jug full of Miller Genuine Draft, with a picture of Dale Earnhardt shaking hands with Jesus on it, a rebel flag, and a Harley Bar and shield for $2.00 and the fans would fill the stands every sunday.
 
#23 ·
the thing about that is, it's not so unlikely to see me riding the Guzzi some day soon...



but what are my chances of getting a leg over Monica?



nope, sorry... nothing wrong with dreaming but at the end of the day we have to live in the real world. I'll save my pennies for the Guzzi & continue to hit on the local 35ish-but-fit soccer moms. They may not be perfect but they're available weekday afternoons!
 
#24 ·
Don't stop now. You were doing really well with the generalizations.



I've got more:



Everyone who attends or works at a university is a parasite and a druggie.



All blacks are too stupid to handle their own lives and thus need the govt to protect them.



All sportbike riders are mentally ill potential sucides.



Isn't this fun? Don't you feel better now?
 
#25 ·
Or all you have to do is go to a University and put up a sign that says "Stop Womens' Sufferaging!" and you'll immediately get a crowd in support (The guys on "The Man Show" actually did this).
 
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