Crazy traffic stop
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Sounds like the cop should have been checked by a urologist while he was at the hospital. I think he may be lacking in testicular capacity. He just had to assert his dominance over a motorcyclist.
Where are we finding these fools so lacking in decision-making ability? With our tax dollars going to so many questionable studies, isn't there some university that can come up with a personality assessment that will let law enforcement agencies weed these types out before they get through the academy?
We have a cop who won't send an ambulance to the aid of a downed rider and we have a cop who won't let medical staff get to the hospital. Who knows what would have happened if this doc was going to the hospital to perform emergency surgery on a downed motorcyclist.
Where are we finding these fools so lacking in decision-making ability? With our tax dollars going to so many questionable studies, isn't there some university that can come up with a personality assessment that will let law enforcement agencies weed these types out before they get through the academy?
We have a cop who won't send an ambulance to the aid of a downed rider and we have a cop who won't let medical staff get to the hospital. Who knows what would have happened if this doc was going to the hospital to perform emergency surgery on a downed motorcyclist.
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Sheesh!
Yeah, James Brolin was the cool Doc that rolled up on the bike on the intro. He did wear his helmet too, if I recall correctly, so he was even cooler yet. I watched the show as a kid, but I never remembered that part until you brought it up. Things just aren't the same as the 60's anymore.
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The excuse that the guy didn't pull over immediately is completely lame. I had a cop follow me for a mile with his lights on - but at a 1/4 - 1/2 mile distance - and he never hit his sirens at all. Anyway, the cop was irate and I told him that I was paying attention to traffic ahead of me and to the sides, which seemed reasonable. I didn't get cuffed, but I did get an ABSURD ticket for tailgating.
I think police go out of their way to bait people sometimes just so they can exercise their little power. It's good to see one get a punished for his zealotry.
I've hammered this drum many times: the more subjective components of traffic enforcement, particularly speed enforcement (I'm 100% supportive of aggressive enforcement of traffic control such as stop, yield and lights) is unfair by any reasonable moral or judicial standard. You are effectively presumed guilty of a crime in court based on subjective views of one person and enforcement is utterly arbitary. Further, it does virtually nothing to advance public safety. Speed in particulay is flat-out not correlated with incidences of crashes. In some studies it is correlated with the severity of crashes (physics logically suggets this).
I don't have any data on multi- versus single-vehicle crashes associated with speed information.
Ridiculous!
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I think police go out of their way to bait people sometimes just so they can exercise their little power. It's good to see one get a punished for his zealotry.
I've hammered this drum many times: the more subjective components of traffic enforcement, particularly speed enforcement (I'm 100% supportive of aggressive enforcement of traffic control such as stop, yield and lights) is unfair by any reasonable moral or judicial standard. You are effectively presumed guilty of a crime in court based on subjective views of one person and enforcement is utterly arbitary. Further, it does virtually nothing to advance public safety. Speed in particulay is flat-out not correlated with incidences of crashes. In some studies it is correlated with the severity of crashes (physics logically suggets this).
I don't have any data on multi- versus single-vehicle crashes associated with speed information.
Ridiculous!
cdg
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I will play dumb here.
But do doctors legitimately have the OK to speed? What did the cop do that was wrong buy not buying his story? After he confirmed the story, then he drove him to the hospital.
Not to sure why the doctor was in hand cuffs for doing 35 in a 25.
It reads like the cop was fallowing procedures.
But do doctors legitimately have the OK to speed? What did the cop do that was wrong buy not buying his story? After he confirmed the story, then he drove him to the hospital.
Not to sure why the doctor was in hand cuffs for doing 35 in a 25.
It reads like the cop was fallowing procedures.
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The guy should have been on a cruiser with life saving loud pipes, then the cop would have known he was a doctor.
I had a cop pull up behind me about six inchs off my back fender one night on the way home from work. Then when I sped up to get out of the way, he hit his lights, siren and spot light and pulls me over for weaving and speeding. I got the charges dropped at a hearing, but I still wound up taking a day off work and sitting around the courthouse all day. Total B.S.
I believe in supporting the police, and I believe most of them are decent people that want to do the right thing, but there does seem to be a few John Waynes that slip through the cracks.
I had a cop pull up behind me about six inchs off my back fender one night on the way home from work. Then when I sped up to get out of the way, he hit his lights, siren and spot light and pulls me over for weaving and speeding. I got the charges dropped at a hearing, but I still wound up taking a day off work and sitting around the courthouse all day. Total B.S.
I believe in supporting the police, and I believe most of them are decent people that want to do the right thing, but there does seem to be a few John Waynes that slip through the cracks.
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I thought I was the one playing dumb. Thnx for the responce. 
I was told be a Pennsylvania state troop that technically anyone one other than law enforcement riding in a police car is supposed to be cuffed, even if the cop is just giving them a ride back to their brokedown van waiting for the tow truck.
To be honest when on my bike I have had pleasant experiences with police while speeding. One told me he couldn't pick my bike up on radar. Both times I was let go without even an official warning. I think they knew how fast I could really go if I had a total disreguard for safety and I wasn't weaving through rush hour or poppin' wheeliz.
To be honest when on my bike I have had pleasant experiences with police while speeding. One told me he couldn't pick my bike up on radar. Both times I was let go without even an official warning. I think they knew how fast I could really go if I had a total disreguard for safety and I wasn't weaving through rush hour or poppin' wheeliz.
If they pull a guy for doing 10 over here, they would ask him why he's holding up traffic. Some police officers have nothing better to do than hide to generate revenue to justify their jobs. Pretty ironic that almost all police departments have quotas on how many traffic tickets they must write each month.
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This is exactly the reason that I proposed to my local representative the idea that police should not be paid for their time in court if the charges are dismissed by a judge. Give them the same incentive to avoid writing dubious tickets as you have currently in avoiding pissing of a cop who can hang dubious tickets over your head.
Of course when this was forwarded to the police department they naturally disagreed. They want the power to, at the very least, make someone miss work and sit around in court all day.
If I were you I would have asked what kind of complaint or procedure must be filed to get the cop cited for tailgating.
Police naturally become John Waynes, even when they didn't start out that way. When you believe that your job is so important, that, by extension, YOU are so important, with a badge and a gun and the ability to command any citizen at any time under threat of arrest or use of deadly force, pretty soon you start to believe that the rights of others aren't as important as your mission to keep society from descending into anarchy.
Which is why I'm a Clint Eastwood fan. Never did like John Wayne.
Of course when this was forwarded to the police department they naturally disagreed. They want the power to, at the very least, make someone miss work and sit around in court all day.
If I were you I would have asked what kind of complaint or procedure must be filed to get the cop cited for tailgating.
Police naturally become John Waynes, even when they didn't start out that way. When you believe that your job is so important, that, by extension, YOU are so important, with a badge and a gun and the ability to command any citizen at any time under threat of arrest or use of deadly force, pretty soon you start to believe that the rights of others aren't as important as your mission to keep society from descending into anarchy.
Which is why I'm a Clint Eastwood fan. Never did like John Wayne.
Now, now, the police don't have quotas on the number of citations they write every month. Ask them, they'll tell you!
They just have to write enough to earn a positive performance review. Not a quota, a performance incentive! That's why it's difficult to get out of a ticket when it's "that time of the month". . . .
They just have to write enough to earn a positive performance review. Not a quota, a performance incentive! That's why it's difficult to get out of a ticket when it's "that time of the month". . . .
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