[schizuki]

All right Miguel! What an entertaining guy. Glad to see Jake Zemke on the podium, too. Those two guys put the fun in racing.



Kurtis takes second. Bleah. Somebody tell me he's a good guy so I don't have to talk about his lemon-sucking puss all year.

 

[schizuki]

Oh, yeah, and loud pipes are for retards, choppers suck, and guns are fun.

 

[sarnali]

Oh Yeah!!!



Well choppers are for retards, loud pipes suck and guns should be confiscated.......



Aaaaand 51% of you are red-state dip-shyts who are too dumb to know how stupid you are.

 

[schizuki]

Let's get this party started! Woooo!

 

[pdad13]

Good for Miguel and Jake. Also big props for Chris Peris (nice ride) and Jason Perez (who still finished sixth after wadding his bike and pitting.) Barnes did a great job after getting screwed in the pits. Lots of good stories here (Eslick, too), but not the most exciting race.



I'll say it again: I feel bad for Josh Hayes and Ben Atttard. Very bad day for Attack Kawasaki.



Anybody else notice that, aside from listing Barnes on a Buell (which they corrected), Speed also had Ben Walters on a Triumph on the ticker? Freaked me out.

 

[schizuki]

Not that I'm not happy with getting any roadracing at all on Speed, but can't they find ANYBODY besides Brian Drebber as an announcer? What a tool. He's got a booth full of ex-champions telling him that the leaders won't bother with a final tire change, especially after Roberts's disaster, and he just kept on harping on it. Ditto Greg White, who twice got faked out when the pit crews had just-in-case tires at the ready.



I'm thinking that even that puker on "Corbin's Ride On" would be a better choice. Well, maybe not.

 

[GSXRWolf]

Miguel, Jake and Kurtis shouldn't even be racing in Formula Extreme. They should be racing in Supersport, mixing it up with the Hayden's on the Kawasaki's and the Yamaha gang.

 

[GSXRWolf]

Where's all the Ducati 749s? You'd think someone would be smart enough to recognize the inherent superiority of the V-twin power delivery. And with a 150cc displacement advantage, it should be a no brainer.

 

[yo-me-mo]

Racing has gotten boring because the bikes are so reliable that we pretty much know how it's going to turn out it, and it usually does. How many guys have a realistic shot at winning. Maybe 4. Thats not exciting. I love bike racing but it has gotten worse not better. I can see why nascar is so much more popular. Especially the 200 with those pit stops how many riders really stand a chance at winning.

Boring boring boring !

 

[GSXRWolf]

What are you talking about? "Racing has gotten boring because the bikes are so reliable" Are you disappointed they don't blow up and take out a bunch of riders? Would that add to your viewing pleasure? The problem is the AMA came up with a stupid class and Honda is the only factory supporting it. Honda should go back to the Supersport class. AMA should *****-can the Formula Extreme class. Privateers can't afford to build two 600's. One to race in Supersport and one, more expensive bike to build, for the Formula Extreme class. So what you end up with is a bunch of guys mounting slicks on their 600 Supersport machines so they can run in another class.



As far as the 200 goes, it's just a really different sort of race. It's the only one during the season where they have pits stops. I'd still like to see them use the Superbikes in the 200 but I know it needs to be safe enough for the riders. Maybe if they had mandatory 4 pit stops so the tires don't get destroyed. With the new track layout they've already partially addressed the problem. For this years race they should have stuck with the Superbikes to see what would happen. Make more changes next year. But to change the track and switch to Formula Extreme bikes; they made too many changes at once.

 

[Buzglyd]

An engine configuration didn't win this race- money did.

 

[pdad13]

Well, I've got to agree with you there. I was thinking that the field was comprised of a few stars, some young guys, and a bunch of privateers. But since Honda is the only real factory team, and this is supposedly the marquee race, what did you expect?

 

[GSXRWolf]

Are you responding to my post? I never said anything about engine configuration winning or losing the race. However, I agree with your point. Honda likely spent the most money on their machines, their crews and their riders.



But if a privateer wanted to finish as high as possible in the standings, wouldn't he want to be sitting in the saddle of one of those Ducati 749 machines with the inherently superior power delivery?

 

[pdad13]

How about Michelle Smith from American Thunder while you're at it? They could race Vengeance customs in the 200. That would make a really interesting race. And all she would have to do is read a bad script, badly, like she does anyway.



Miguel on a Vengeance Vindicator.

Zemke on a Vengeance Abominator.

Kurtis on a Vengeance Dominatrix.



(I could go on, but I'll spare you all.)



What a stupid show--a thinly-veiled infomercial for Vengeance crapola. At least Corbin's Ride On comes right out and says what it is. And they make some useful products.

 

[sarnali]

You mean they're serious? I thought that show was a comedy.



Corbin Ride on is watchable, and I've bought a few seats off them. I have a leather one on my Trophy as we speak, with color matched light blue piping no less... looks and works pretty well for like $250 total. Not a bad deal.



TWT is alright, at least ol' Greg is sincere, you can tell he's trying to do a good job. The best M/C related show I've seen is the two Brit. guys on "A bike is born" they do cars as well, but one series in particular they did was a frame up restoration on a '69 Bonnie that turned out great. They did a 4-5 Harley in o.d. green that looked pretty cool, and an XKE Jag.



It's a pretty cool show, no pretense, just the kinda' guys you find hanging out in some little shop working on bikes. Not the Hollywood retards on the chopper shows.

 

[mergenex]

The racing at the 200 sucked. I swear the AMA is trying to destroy itself with these dramatic horribly thought out changes. What kind of Daytona 200 is it when you have ONE factory racing bikes. It was a Honda 200. They need to cut out formula Xtreme and super stock. All the AMA needs is Superbike and superstock. Privateers stand a hell of a better chance in superstock then in carbon fiber encrusted, Ohlins shocked, big bucks formula xtreme. Make superbike a little less outrageous cost wise. Make a 5 year plan, and then stick with it. What Daytona 200 would you rather have seen, 3 Hondas fighting for the first pit stop? Or 15 factory supported superbikes racing around MIxing it up. If we get rid of superstock then the big 5 will have to join superbike if they want to show their big bikes racing. I am so disappointed in the AMA.

 

[GSXRWolf]

You have some good points there but you need to proofread your post a little more carefully. I think you got your supersport and superstock mixed up a little bit.

 

[Buzglyd]

That V-Twin power delivery you deride so much finished ahead of 33 I-4s in the Superbike race.



Just because you ride a GSXR doesn't mean you get to claim any credit for its success. For a 50 year old you're about as mature as the late KPaul.

 

[schizuki]

"American Thunder"? They should call it "American Used-Up Chicken-Skin Slag."



I can't stand the host of Ride On, but they do have some pretty useful technical features. And the non-Harley get-togethers are pretty interesting to hear about (nothing against Harleys, it just seems like all of their attendees are slobs who come out for "the biiiikes, the womennnn....", punctuated by a "Wooooooo!")



TWT is decent, Greg is likable, although the interviews with industry guys can be dull.



Agreed on "A Bike is Born." The Brits just seem to do much better than us with this stuff (See "Car & Driver" or "Motor Trend" vs "Fifth Gear.") Same with magazines.

 

[GSXRWolf]

Yes, and in the Superbike races, one I-4 finished ahead of 2 V-twins! Fascinating statistics indeed. But this post is about the Daytona 200, which is the Formula Extreme class this year.