Daytona 675 Found!
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Sweet! Now that's what I call takin' one for the team!
Sweet! Now that's what I call takin' one for the team!
How about obtaining all your test bikes this way and tell us what you really think, like you used to a few years ago before your editorial/management changes. Not that you're dishonest or biased, just that you can be more free wheeling and critical without fear of reprisal.
Just kidding.
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I'd gladly trade my camera and all my Daytona photos for another plate of Hooters "hot" Wings. -Sean
You know den1111 might be on to something. Have you guys ever considered doing a "Real World" comparison using privately owned bikes with the common mods done to them? Granted, it's not as pure and objective as one done with stock bikes, but it could be just as informative and fun.
Triumph should have just made a 750, period. It's a damn shame the 750 class is practically dead and all praise to Suziki for keeping it alive, sort of. The liter bikes are simply too much for mortals anymore.
500, 750, 1000. So logical. The whole 600 class is a historic oddity and a mistake. 636 was cheating small time, the 675 is in its own neverworld.
I blame Kawi as much as anyone. First because in some weird way the 600 class sprang from their in so many ways trendsetting 550. Then because they let the Z7 go undeveloped and then die.
Bring back the 750's. Not too big, not too small, just right.
500, 750, 1000. So logical. The whole 600 class is a historic oddity and a mistake. 636 was cheating small time, the 675 is in its own neverworld.
I blame Kawi as much as anyone. First because in some weird way the 600 class sprang from their in so many ways trendsetting 550. Then because they let the Z7 go undeveloped and then die.
Bring back the 750's. Not too big, not too small, just right.
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Er, sort of...
Well, that's only true in British Supersport right now (as far as the FIM-affiliated series go.) Many of the smaller series are allowing the Triumph to line up against the 600-fours.
The fact that the 675 is not being allowed in WSS and AMA SS & FX is more likely due to politics and the fact that Triumph will not be supporting a factory race team. Aprilia has hinted that they may be developing a middleweight triple of their own. If there's a factory-supported racing version, you can bet it'll be allowed in WSS in the near future.
And yes, the 636 is a "cheater" if you want to look at it that way. I'd rather look at it as a better engine for the road.
The 675 is not a "cheater," by most people's definition. It may have a larger displacement, but it is also "smaller" in a sense because it has only three cylinders. Displacement might be one of the most arbitrary measures of an engine's performance. It only means something relative to engine architecture.
Well, that's only true in British Supersport right now (as far as the FIM-affiliated series go.) Many of the smaller series are allowing the Triumph to line up against the 600-fours.
The fact that the 675 is not being allowed in WSS and AMA SS & FX is more likely due to politics and the fact that Triumph will not be supporting a factory race team. Aprilia has hinted that they may be developing a middleweight triple of their own. If there's a factory-supported racing version, you can bet it'll be allowed in WSS in the near future.
And yes, the 636 is a "cheater" if you want to look at it that way. I'd rather look at it as a better engine for the road.
The 675 is not a "cheater," by most people's definition. It may have a larger displacement, but it is also "smaller" in a sense because it has only three cylinders. Displacement might be one of the most arbitrary measures of an engine's performance. It only means something relative to engine architecture.
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Not a cheater
Yes, the 636 is a "cheater" if you want to look at it that way. I'd rather look at it as a better engine for the road. They also make a 600cc racing version, remember? I think Kawi caught the other manufacturers sleeping. Good for them.
The 675 is not a "cheater," by most people's definition. It may have a larger displacement, but it is also "smaller" in a sense because it has only three cylinders. Displacement might be one of the most arbitrary measures of an engine's performance. It only means something relative to engine architecture and tuning.
But I agree on the 750-fours (or equivalent twins and triples).
Yes, the 636 is a "cheater" if you want to look at it that way. I'd rather look at it as a better engine for the road. They also make a 600cc racing version, remember? I think Kawi caught the other manufacturers sleeping. Good for them.
The 675 is not a "cheater," by most people's definition. It may have a larger displacement, but it is also "smaller" in a sense because it has only three cylinders. Displacement might be one of the most arbitrary measures of an engine's performance. It only means something relative to engine architecture and tuning.
But I agree on the 750-fours (or equivalent twins and triples).
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Re: Daytona 675 Found & Abused
Nice.
Nice.
Y'know, while you're at it... it might be kind of interesting to get all the other 600s the same way just to see if they're representative of test units? If it was that easy to get a Triumph, there must be 10 times as many CBRs and R6s out there. Do they all still build 49-state and California models? dunno...
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