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Update: "We've ridden it. It's mind-blowing."

Okay, get this. I saw some scans of the 32-page feature the Bike magazine did on the 675. They covered the entire development of the bike from the first designs to the super-secret prototype test. The sub-head reads: "We've ridden it. It's mind-blowing."

The intro goes on to call the 675 the greatest British sportbike ever made and one of the greatest of all time, comparing it in stature and significance to the RC-30 and the 916. Hyperbole? Maybe. But the British press has never been particularly kind to the new Triumph.

It's too soon to pronouce the 675 anything yet. But it does pique the interest a bit, probably even for those of you that are (understandibly) sick of hearing about supersports.

You just can't help but root for the underdog.

Now, that new R6...
 

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Bike feature is posted there,

If you go into the TT600/D6 forum, there's a thread about the 675. The second page has the scans from the Bike feature. To say they liked it would be the understatement of the century. You can't read much of the text, but you can read the intro (if you squint.) It states there that the 675 actually made 120 rwhp, but apparently 116 was also noted somewhere.
 

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Um, almost every British review I've read has thrashed Triumphs or damned them with faint praise. Although, the new Sprint ST did get some oral favors. The Daytona 650 was pretty well received by the European press.



Now, who the hell picked the Daytona (955i?) over the RI and GSX-R? Think they're getting payola.
 

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Apparently, it's not the peak torque that's impressive, it's the linear delivery. By the factory numbers, it reaches it's peak torque high in the rev range, like most supersports, but it supposedly pulls hard (for a middleweight) across the range.



Let us remember that even the top-line 600 I-4s only make in the high 40s (give or take).
 

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Buz, I think most of us would be more likely to buy the Sprint.



But there is potentially a very compelling story if the 675 is anything close to what Bike says it is.



The little company that (finally) could?



And, yes, you are old.
 

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True, you make a good point. There has been speculation that the WSS rules will be changed to allow the 675 triple. There does seem to be some reason why Triumph chose the 675 displacement. Now, whether it's because it fits neatly between the 600-fours and the 750-twin remains to be seen. WSS doesn't seem to be making any major rules changes, yet. Although, it could be argued that allowing the triple isn't really a major rules change. And maybe AMA? BSS?



And also remember the majority of 600 SS buyers. They just want the biket that's the baddest so they can play Ricky Racer or brag to the squid hoards about, not the one that's most practical. Triumph may be playing right along to a degree.
 

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I meant "hordes."

Since I butchered that last sentence. What I meant was:

And also remember the motivation of the typical 600 SS buyer. They just want the bike that's the "baddest" so they can play Ricky Racer or impress the squid hordes. Triumph may be playing right along to a degree.

Oh, and how many of the current supersports ever see the track?
 

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No, your friend is right. I thought the SV1000 ergos were bad, too. There's a fairly long stretch to the bars and the bars themselves are too narrow and angled too far downward.



The bike might fit some well, but not me.
 

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Yeah, I think it's real purty with the fairing lowers, too. I also think it's really underrated. I was talking to the owner of my local Suzi dealer and he admitted that they screwed the pooch on the ergos. He said as soon as he sat on one he knew that Suzuki got it wrong.



Totally agree with a more ST riding position. Put the clipons on small risers, change the angle, drop the pegs a smidge and it probably feels like a different bike. Hell, just changing the angle of the bars would probably help a lot.
 

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Um, Twitchy, I ride a Daytona 955i, which is more sport than your sport. It's bone stock. The ergos are probably every bit as aggressive as the SV but the bar/peg/seat relationship works better, at least for me. Oh, and I ride it practically every day.



I like the SV1K a lot. I just don't like the ergos too much. I thought a Buell XB12R was more comfortable. Ever squeeze your a$$ onto one of those? I thought it was great for a tiny bike.



And I ain't that old. But I am getting there. Seruzawa, now he's acient.
 

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I'm going to elaborate on what Buz said. The Triumph is a Triple--one less cylinder. A triple will have a difficult time revving as high as a 600 I-4. But, in theory, it could have some advantages, too.



Depending on engine tuning, the bigger cylinders could produce a better power from the bottom up, even if it suffers at the the top of the rev range. It's a different engineering solution than the I-4, but it's certainly not a "cheater" like the ZX-6R or the Daytona 650(although I have no problem with the extra displacement in respect to a road bike.)



The 600cc displacement limit is more or less an arbitrary one that became defacto because most of the major manufacturers were making and racing I-4s. And contrary to popular belief, the "Supersport" racing classes are just that--Supersport. Not "600 cc Supersport" or 600cc Inline-four Supersport." To limit the displacement across the board for every type of engine architecture would be unfair to anyone that wanted to try a different engineering solution. And how much fun would that be? The Ducati 749 is a supersport entry. But it needs more displacement (749ccs) to mitigate it's disadvantage in number of cylinders. But the twin layout also has advantages. And isn't that what racing should be about? Who's got the better idea? Jesus, I don't want motorcycle racing to become NASCAR on two wheels.



The company line at Triumph is that they have no plans to go racing. And the WSS or AMA SS rules have not been changed to allow the Triple. But I wouldn't be surprised to see a semi-factory supported team and privateers if the rules are changed and this bike is really good.



Anyway, none of this makes any difference on the road. But to get back to the point, a 600cc I-4 and the 675 Triple is a fair fight.
 

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I remember. But they also denied that this bike existed. They may mean what they say, but don't be surprised if you see a semi-factory team again and privateers somewhere if the rules change. They may be playing by their own rules, but by the looks of this bike, they could be very much in the same game as the Japanese.



If the bike is anywhere near as good as the Bike magazine hyperventillating implies, at least one of their intentions was to kick the Japanese in the nuts. I think if racing was totally and completely ruled out, you might be seeing a significantly different bike. Let's wait and see.
 
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