Dirt Revivalism: Yossef On The New XT660
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Is Suzuki the only one coming out with a CA street legal supermoto bike?Through the Wee Strom prism....
Im stuck viewing this bike through the Wee Strom prism. The XT600 is lighter, better looking, and can handle somewhat rougher roads. But it also has less hp, less range, poorer lighting, poorer instrumentation (not even a tach?), less wind protection and will probably carry much less.
I dont see the XT600 stealing any sales from the almighty Strom in fact, the XT600 might just steer more sales to the Strom once customers realize what a great deal the Strom is in comparison (even if the XT has a much lower price) and come to terms with how they will REALLY use the bike.
Im stuck viewing this bike through the Wee Strom prism. The XT600 is lighter, better looking, and can handle somewhat rougher roads. But it also has less hp, less range, poorer lighting, poorer instrumentation (not even a tach?), less wind protection and will probably carry much less.
I dont see the XT600 stealing any sales from the almighty Strom in fact, the XT600 might just steer more sales to the Strom once customers realize what a great deal the Strom is in comparison (even if the XT has a much lower price) and come to terms with how they will REALLY use the bike.
Yamaha just plain sucks. "Looky what we make that you guys can have." Or the all to familiar "Well, if you really want one we can create a waiting list and maybe you can get one sometime." Stick it straight up yer arse. Yeah I like the bike but given the Beemer's high price, 12% doesn't seem like that much of a bargain.
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Probably not a bad bike for blasting around town and for the most part more dealers (maybe not better) then for KTM's.
I would like to see Yamaha and the like produce super-moto's as they have the technology....I have a 625 SMC that I love, but do not have a local dealer and maintenance is a chore....street legal out of the box and a high neat factor but how about a factory street legal 450X or WR?
I know Suzuki is coming out with one, but looks a little too soft; needs a larger engine....just my thoughts....
Carry on,
Chris
I would like to see Yamaha and the like produce super-moto's as they have the technology....I have a 625 SMC that I love, but do not have a local dealer and maintenance is a chore....street legal out of the box and a high neat factor but how about a factory street legal 450X or WR?
I know Suzuki is coming out with one, but looks a little too soft; needs a larger engine....just my thoughts....
Carry on,
Chris
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The throught of a super moto/street legal Aprillia 450 V-Twin makes my tummy tickle!
Local dealer support? Who needs it!
Local dealer support? Who needs it!
Not what I'd buy, but if I were in the market for a KLR650, I'd definitely give it a look.
Just wish it weren't so heavy.. 380 dry, I think that's even more than a KLR wet.
What I would buy doesn't exist, but it would be something like a new version of Hondas XR-L series. The motor and frame from the XR650R, e-start, overdrive 6 speed, w/ wet weight of 315. It could be Hondas answer to the DRZ-S.
Just wish it weren't so heavy.. 380 dry, I think that's even more than a KLR wet.
What I would buy doesn't exist, but it would be something like a new version of Hondas XR-L series. The motor and frame from the XR650R, e-start, overdrive 6 speed, w/ wet weight of 315. It could be Hondas answer to the DRZ-S.
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Aprilia 450 V-Twin
I'd buy two... a standard 450 Supermoto and a 450/RS250 conversion canyon/roadracer... both sound like the bee's knees. -Sean
I'd buy two... a standard 450 Supermoto and a 450/RS250 conversion canyon/roadracer... both sound like the bee's knees. -Sean
As a KLR owner who's thinking of finally replacing it after 9 years of service, I'm sorry to see this bike being 43 lbs heavier, and no bash plate! That definitely elliminates it for me (if it were available here), there aren't a lot of choices of bikes that can handle 400 mile days and really rough dirt roads and single track these days.
XT660
Seems to me like thats a deceased market. People here in the USA are either going to go for a more off-road specific bike (wr450, drz400, xr650r) or they are going to go for a bigger adventure bike (KTM Adv 950, V-strom, R1150GS), that has better touring capabilities. Thats my 2 cents.
It would be nice to see a direct comparo between the XLR650 and the XT660.
Seems to me like thats a deceased market. People here in the USA are either going to go for a more off-road specific bike (wr450, drz400, xr650r) or they are going to go for a bigger adventure bike (KTM Adv 950, V-strom, R1150GS), that has better touring capabilities. Thats my 2 cents.
It would be nice to see a direct comparo between the XLR650 and the XT660.
HELL NO, BEYATCH!
I DON'T KNOW WHY ANYBODY WOULD WANT TO RIDE IN DA DIRT, WHERE THERE ARE NO GIRLZ IN CARZ TO SEE YOU PULL YOUR WHEELIEZ, AND 48 HP? IS THAT A TYPO? MY GSXR1000'Z STARTER MOTOR MAKEZ MORE POWA' THAN THAT!
ANYWAY, KTM MAKEZ A STREET-LEGAL MOTARD FOR CALI, THE 625 SMC. THERE'Z HUSKY AND HUZABERG TOO.
I DON'T KNOW WHY ANYBODY WOULD WANT TO RIDE IN DA DIRT, WHERE THERE ARE NO GIRLZ IN CARZ TO SEE YOU PULL YOUR WHEELIEZ, AND 48 HP? IS THAT A TYPO? MY GSXR1000'Z STARTER MOTOR MAKEZ MORE POWA' THAN THAT!
ANYWAY, KTM MAKEZ A STREET-LEGAL MOTARD FOR CALI, THE 625 SMC. THERE'Z HUSKY AND HUZABERG TOO.
You're right dd. 380 llbs. dry is rldiculously heavy for a single, (especially one that pretends to have dirt aspirations) in this day and age where 1000cc sport bikes have lower claimed dry weights. That and the lack of traditional low end pulling power makes you wonder what Yamaha was thinking. VWW
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Re: Aprilia 450 V-Twin
I think the 450 vtwin in the RS250 frame would put a hurt on alot of sport bikes in the curvy stuf.
I'd probably be happy with a supermoto version, but both would be nice.
I think the 450 vtwin in the RS250 frame would put a hurt on alot of sport bikes in the curvy stuf.
I'd probably be happy with a supermoto version, but both would be nice.
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Cool bike, won't be sold in the USA, probably wouldn't sell to well anyway. The US market is more focused on a specific use (it seems). Sportbikes, Cruisers, Dirt Bikes, most people don't like the compromises you make with dual purpose bikes.
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