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Ducati North America on the move

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Here's my off-topic comment for the day...

I've ridden through Cali twice now and I've decided one of the best parts about it is lane-splitting. While there are those who scoff at such behavior, in my defense, I only did it when traffic got really gnarled.

The question I would like answered is: What steps were taken that lead to lane-splitting being legalized in California, and what are some opinions on how to lobby for it in my own state?

Perhaps I should mention that "my own state" also happens to be the home of a certain Motor Company that builds big, slow, and heavy motorcycles that generally wouldn't fit well between lanes anyway.
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Continued off topic....

There are no laws, as far as I know, which make lane splitting legal/illegal in California. Meaning there is no law making it illegal and there is no law saying it is legal. It is up to the discretion of the Police officer to decide whether you are driving in a safe manner. For the most part they don't bother you as long as you are lane splitting at pretty slow speeds, in the 25mph ball park. Keep the rubber side down.


Hmm. Didja notice they don't say _where_ in California they're moving? Seems kinda odd to issue a press release that says you're moving if you haven't yet nailed down your destination. Are they keeping it a secret for some reason? Or are they just geographically-challenged easterners for whom "California" means "Los Angeles and environs"?

Then again, maybe this is a request for bids from California cities who want to bring in a new employer. What kind of tax breaks can we get for bringing X jobs to your city? Though, really, with parts and bike distribution outsourced, how many people are left for the HQ to employ? It's probably bigger than MO, but I'd bet it's smaller than, say, Lincoln-Mercury (who will probably be vacating their new Irvine digs and heading back to Detroit soon).
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California is a good move for Ducati. The automakers all have design centers bordering the pacific for good reason. California is the bellwether of future (especially auto related) trends. Besides, the weather is better in California. Arrivederci Pompton Plains.
Ducati N.A. reorganized (axed management) several months ago due to disappointing U.S. results. The new management team has been well received by its retail organization. I don't know Ducati N.A.'s current headcount, but it would probably occupy less than 5% of L-M's Irvine office including a large showroom. It will be interesting to see if Ford moves L-M back to Dearborn. My guess, Mercury gets absorbed into Ford Division, Lincoln gets to stay with direction from PAG.
Careful you have said something bad about Harley, you are bound to infamous on this site now. :)
Who cares what they do in California, anyway

Ok, I am just jealous. I live near the Pacific but spend about ten months of the year being a wet rider. California is a good place for Ducati.
Damn, I knew I should have tried for a job with them earlier--I used to live 2 miles from their (NJ) HQ. Cali will be much better for them.
The reason it is legal in California is because air cooled motorcycles were overheating in the hot southern California climate. This in turn was causing the already horrable traffic as Mr. Burns can attest to even worse. The law by the way states that motorcycles can lane split in traffic up to 45mph. The motorcycle is not to exceed 5mph faster than surronding traffic. Therefore if traffic is going 15mph your top speed is suppose to be 20mph and so on until traffic reaches 46 mph then you are suppose to fall back into a lane and proceed as usual. So if you can convince the state of Wisconson or the city of Millwaukee (Which is the local indian tribe word meaning the Good Land.) I guess they new way back then that allot of beer was going to be made there. Well any ways back to the original subject. If you can convince them that the extreme heat of your state and gridlock make it sensible than you should be in there.

P.S. Send me some cheese and beer you hoser
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With the big 4 Japanese manufacturers located in the Los Angeles metro area, my money's on Ducati moving to that same location. Perhaps the Irvine/Orange County area, but I can't seem them moving to NoCal, just doesn't make business sense.

Then again, Ducati has always been a bit quirky, so maybe they'll move to Bakersfield or Fresno...


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LOL ATFL best laugh I have had all day. Keep it up you hoser.
Re: lane spilting in CA

As coqui stated there is no law in Calif. that makes lane spliting legal or illegal.

However there are several laws that officer Ollie can use if he wants to give you a

ticket. And 4in6 was correct in that it is tolerated because of the major traffic problems

in LA and air cooled motorcycles were over heating. And another reasons is simply the

CHP does it. 4in6 was incorrect about the 45mph law, there is no such law in CA! Now down to

the practical matters. 1). Lane spilting violates the concept of space cushioning and see

and be seen (MSF rider course). 2) If your going to lane split, traffic should be at a virtual stop. With traffic moving even

at 15mph some idiot will try to change lanes, and that idiot will never see a motorcycle.

3) Only lane split in the #1 and #2 lanes (left most lanes). 4) Travel only about 5mph

faster than traffic, and move back into the #1 lane when traffic is moving. 5) Keep

your head and eyes up and looking well ahead for cars and trucks with huge mirrors. 6)

Cover your clutch and front brake.

Be safe, have fun and look good
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eh, take-off you hosers, if they catch me talking with yous two they might lock me up and throw away the key, ya' know?
There is no such law concerning "lane splitting" in CA. You can get a ticket for unsafe driving/riding (or whatever the legal term for this is), but its up to the officer to decide what in unsafe.

BTW, I doubt CA lawmakers would create a law with air cooled motorcycles in mind. You might want to try using the "my motorcycle was overheating" excuse if you ever get pulled over.
there IS a law in california ...

there is a law regarding lanesplitting, but it is referred to as "lane sharing." it is correctly articulated in the post above.

the main thing that cops look out for is if you're weaving from one lane to the next while you're sharing. they want you to share one lane and stay there. i have been stopped a couple of times for weaving; never ticketed. and i split lanes in my commute each and every damned day.
Re: lane spilting in CA

there IS law on the books regarding lane sharing and it correctly articulated above. i lane split on my commute every day. in 9 years i have been stopped twice (never ticketed) for not staying in one lane that i was sharing. cops don't like it when you share one lane then the other, weaving back and forth.

interesting you should quote the MSF. don't they have it in their skill code that you should NEVER cover the front brake? their logic: if you do and you crash, the brake lever can injure or maim the fingers remaining on the right grip that are under the brake lever. this twisted gem of moto illogic never ceased to amaze me. i have had some heated debates with MSF "experts" regarding this point.
I'm seriously questioning the intelligence of current Ducati management when they've chosen not to attend the Honda Hoot this year. Last year, theirs was one of the most popular tents. Being able to test ride their bikes was the number one reason why Ducati is now my favorite make. Before that I couldn't imagine what was so special about a Ducati that people would be willing to shell out the bucks and put up with the exhorbitatant cost of maintenance. They're really shooting themselves in the foot by not attending the Hoot this year.
How can a motorcycle distributor possibly outsource "motorcycle distribution" and "management of parts"? What's left for them other than audit warranty claims? They can UPS overnight parts from Italy directly to the dealer, and maybe ship special order batches a similar way cheaper/slower...but outsource motorcycle distribution? That will be a leftovers blowout every year, attempting to sell containers of various Ducati models through a contracted warehouse. Hmmm, it just might work.
Ducati North America to NoCal.

Ducati has said they are going to Northern California in a press release.

--The Fox
Some top-name auto and truck companies outsourced distribution years ago to Caterpillar. The whole process is transparent to the customer and saves the importer money.

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