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Alan Cathcart Predicts Magic Wonder Bike

London (AP) Following a session of sleep-deprived "vision quest", noted motorcycle racer and journalist predicted a "Magic Wonder Bike" from a major motorcycle manufacturer.

"It will be purple and amorphous/this magic swirling beast/pipes a shimmer/lights a glimmer/a great mechanical feast" said the writer from his East London studio.

According to Cathcart, the new motorcycle will be "thousands of feet long, capable of inter-dimensional travel, simultaneously occur in every point of time and space and will be available in red or black at an MSRP of approximately $8999."

Cathcart did not divulge his sources, but denied he made the story up like he usually does.

"In Xanadu did Kubla Khan/ A stately pleasure-dome decree: Where Alph, the sacred river,

ran/ Through caverns measureless to man/ except in quarter mile times, which should be significantly improved over last year's model"
 

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Wonderful. The more bikes in a manufacturer's line-up, the more we have to choose from. It’s definitely good news for us punters. You never know; Aprilia might follow suit, too.



As for Ducati scrapping the twins? Four cylider kings like Honda, Suzuki, and Yamaha all have twins which sell reasonably well. I think there'll be a demand for the two-cylinder sportbike for the foreseeable future. Look for Ducati to expand their range rather than replace it.



After all, who doesn't like twins ;-)

 

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Knowing Ducati I doubt that these V-4s are going to be anywhere near affordable.



Which is why you'll likely still see sport V-twins. They are less expensive to build. As long as people are willling to buy them they'll be with us.
 

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Heh heh. Just remember that anything is worth exactly what someone is willing to pay for it, no more no less. You may dislike Harleys but they are still worth whatever people are willing to pay for them. Just like any other commodity.



Right now just about every bike except Harleys are worth less than MSRP. Look at all the deals that Ducati, BMW and the big 4 are offering to try to move their 2003 models.
 

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Reminds me of Mark Twain's famous quote - if the sport v-twin is dead, why does Honda still market the VTR1000? Although they must not sell that many of them, because I never see a newer one on the road.

It'll be interesting to see how well the Suzuki SV1000 sells. I think there will be a market for sport v-twins in the near future, though - the torque and the sound are so sweet...
 

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Its no surprise that Ducati will try to leverage off its GP investment and build a v4 street bike.But" sport vtwin days are numbered".?Id be willing to bet that Ducati will market a vtwin sport bike for a long time.
 

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Almost as good as a Ducati Press Release!

This is from that most reliable of sources, Motorcycle Daily, which seldom publishes an unfounded rumor of a new bike model......hmmm, when will we see that new V-Max they have been predicting for the last five years?

Lets see, they supposedly got this story from Alan Cathcart (from an interview in Cycle News) who got it from the principals behind the allegedly reborn Bimota, who got it from Ducati. Damn, that sounds almost as reliable as a press release directly from Ducati!

It would not surprise me to see them eventually make a street V4, especially if they were to win the MotoGP championship, but it really is not necessary to have the same engine configuration as the race bike to successfully market the street bikes. For years Honda sold their sport bikes on the success of their 500 2-stroke GP bikes. The fact that, except for possibly a few 3rd world markets, they didn't even sell any 2-stroke street bikes didn't seem to matter. Even now, they market the new inline 4 CBR600RR based largely on its ties to the V5 990 cc RCV. If Honda can sell inline 4s off the race success of 500cc 2-strokes and V5 4-strokes, I am pretty sure Ducati can sell V-twins from the success of racing V4s.

BTW, Ducati have produced V4s in the past -- intended for police use.
 

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V4's for track is fine, but I hope Ducati continues with v-twins for street. I currently have a Honda 2003 Intercepter. The V4 is nice, but I miss my Duc 900 SuperSport, Duc 750 pass and my Honda VTR1000. Once you to twin, you can't go back. Vtwin power delivery is so much nicer and for two up riding........ v4 can't compare.



I know, I know. I am speaking of sacrilege by bad mouthing an Interceptor. But my eyes are open, I can see the faults.
 

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Basic Economics 101

Funny how that works. Say that I am interested in your old POS Suzuki. We discuss it and finally agree on a price of $5,000 (in your dreams!). Since we both have agreed to this price, obviously the value to you is not more than $5,000 or you would not have agreed to sell, and to me is at least $5,000 or I would not have agreed to pay that much.

Hell, even amongst the most socialist of economists, this is the textbook definition of "Value." I guess if the goods in question are Harleys (or maybe Ducatis) this basic law of economics is suspended, and people who have no interest in buying or selling them feel better qualified to divine "value" through some other method, than are the buyer and seller who actually enjoy or suffer the economic consequences of their judgement.

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I would love to see a Ducati V-4, but like others commenting here, fear the price would be prohibitive for most of us. Honda is capitalizing on its Moto GP effort by building look alikes. I can see Ducati proceeding in that direction as a successor to the 999, perhaps.
 

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Re: Almost as good as a Ducati Press Release!

To add to that, Ducati's heritage (yes they have one) is V-Twins. It is what they are known for and what they are good at. Their expertise and heritage with V-Twins is an inherent advantage over the Japanese (hmmm, that sounds familiar...). Why would they abandon that to build 4-stroke V-4 streetbikes, which in race replica trim (and in racebikes as well) have largely been spectacular failures for every company that has attempted them? What would they gain from switching over?
 

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Hey, there's nothing wrong with opinions- that's mainly why I pay to come to this site, to listen to others' opinions.



On that note, what was it that made the twin power delivery so much nicer than the VFR? The only V-4s I've ridden were Yammies, so I don't know what the Interceptor feels like.
 
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