Man...is that thing U G L Y !!!! Maybe on a black helmet it would be stealthy, but on a multi-colour beauty, it's horrible. Sure it works..but I don't think I could wear one knowing I was going to look dorkier than those weenies on scooters..Yikes!!
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This past spring I raced in Daytona in the misting rain without a Fog City shield. I used duct tape to make a breath shield but its effectiveness was limited to only working at higher speeds. The infiled hade me reaching to lift the shield at every corner.
After a morning practice almost blind in the rain at NHIS this past spring I finally went down to "Street and Comp" retailer at the track and made a purchase of a Fog City shield. Damn it worked as advertised! The price under $20 is worth every penny.
After a morning practice almost blind in the rain at NHIS this past spring I finally went down to "Street and Comp" retailer at the track and made a purchase of a Fog City shield. Damn it worked as advertised! The price under $20 is worth every penny.
When I saw the article title, I was very interested as I fog-up pretty bad and get dazzled easily by glare. Having to fumble with shades and treat my Fog City shod visors like priceless artifacts all gets old pretty quick, anticipation grew.
I clicked on hoping the silly black thing was just an ugly helmet and the visor was some exotic plastic with a baked on Teflon coating...nope. That's it, that silly look'n duck bill thing is what one of my favorite motorcycle web zine considers a viable product for review.
Not only would you get laughed out of any crotch rocket hangout or track with that on, I can see serious drag problems at speed (above cien honey).
And the Helo, what's with that? I almost didn't recognize that was a Quantum Okada Red under there. I don't care if Mr. "staff" writer runs like Rossi, and battles like Gibeneau, spits fire like Biaggi...with all that junk on your can, you'd still look like a buffoon at the end of the day regardless of your times. Staff writer? Yeah, I'd hide my identity if I had to try to sell this off as a legitimate product too. Folly on the editor that let this slide, folly on the management that pushed this through or let it slip past, give me some real "word of mouth and cheep as hell but damn does it work" products, not this "as see on TV" [email protected]
I clicked on hoping the silly black thing was just an ugly helmet and the visor was some exotic plastic with a baked on Teflon coating...nope. That's it, that silly look'n duck bill thing is what one of my favorite motorcycle web zine considers a viable product for review.
Not only would you get laughed out of any crotch rocket hangout or track with that on, I can see serious drag problems at speed (above cien honey).
And the Helo, what's with that? I almost didn't recognize that was a Quantum Okada Red under there. I don't care if Mr. "staff" writer runs like Rossi, and battles like Gibeneau, spits fire like Biaggi...with all that junk on your can, you'd still look like a buffoon at the end of the day regardless of your times. Staff writer? Yeah, I'd hide my identity if I had to try to sell this off as a legitimate product too. Folly on the editor that let this slide, folly on the management that pushed this through or let it slip past, give me some real "word of mouth and cheep as hell but damn does it work" products, not this "as see on TV" [email protected]
Oh, sorry Ralph...must have been too agast to notice, you're a brave man wearing that thing out there. Well, from the pics, it looks not too populated, good for you. But god, I would wear anything if I got payed to ride. I still think that thing is bonehead dumb and dead ugly. Okada would be insulted. I am sure.
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Not being familiar with the concept of shield inserts at all.....
How permanent is the mounting? I mean I can pop this thing in and out at will right, just like my regular shield? At least from the review it seems this is the case for the fog city. But this "template" he speaks of, is that fairly permanent on my helmet?
And it prevents fog in both rain and cold weather yes?
Enlighten me, oh shielded one.
How permanent is the mounting? I mean I can pop this thing in and out at will right, just like my regular shield? At least from the review it seems this is the case for the fog city. But this "template" he speaks of, is that fairly permanent on my helmet?
And it prevents fog in both rain and cold weather yes?
Enlighten me, oh shielded one.
I tried the Hyper Optiks insert and was disappointed that it didn't get dark enough. It goes from light green to a little bit darker blue, but not nearly as dark as a typical tinted shield.
But I was so impressed with the anti-fog properties that I use FogCity inserts on all my shields. Just keep 'em clean and they work perfectly, with just a little bit of "halo-ing" at night.
But I was so impressed with the anti-fog properties that I use FogCity inserts on all my shields. Just keep 'em clean and they work perfectly, with just a little bit of "halo-ing" at night.
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You're an idiot.
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Okay now that my anger has abated. The Helmet Halo I wear all the time. They work, period. I could care less what anyone thinks of it., AFAIC, it takes nothing away from the helmet,and adds a very bright stripe of safety. Fog City shields I have been using for about 8 years in one form or another. They are a great product. Everyone of my helmets gets a fog city shield and a helmet halo as soon as I buy it. The Super- Visor will be used by me on long distance trips. Yes, it is not pretty, and as I said will do nothing for your sex appeal, but it will protect your face from the suns rays when doing a 600 mile + day, as I do many times a year. There may be no squid factor involved on any of these products, but I find that to be a very good thing, not a detriment.
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Excellent article
When you ride in Seattle, you have to deal with foggy shields. This is something I am going to try. Also the light reflective thing would be handy also.
I am some what amused at some of the negative comments about how they look. I thought Posers only rode cruisers. These things are all bout functionality, if it works I don't care how dorky it looks. Vision is an important thing when riding a sport bike. If you want to look cool and be a Poser get a Harley and ride in a parade.
Good Work MO
When you ride in Seattle, you have to deal with foggy shields. This is something I am going to try. Also the light reflective thing would be handy also.
I am some what amused at some of the negative comments about how they look. I thought Posers only rode cruisers. These things are all bout functionality, if it works I don't care how dorky it looks. Vision is an important thing when riding a sport bike. If you want to look cool and be a Poser get a Harley and ride in a parade.
Good Work MO
Anger? You really wear that duck bill on that beautiful paint job? The Helo I could understand, the HURT study clearly defines that visibility failure happens when viewed head on. It seems even with a head lamp lit, cage drones see only other cages. Reflective tape at standing-head height is definitely a way to increase visibility, but ultimately riding for the majority of the Motorcycling populous is not merely transportation. It is an exercise in exhibitionism (hello? there is a freaking dragon on your helmet!), of ones style and attitude, as well as a love of the ride. The only people I see with Helos on their can's are 40-somethings that want to "be as safe as possible", the Helo and this [email protected] is crossing over that line to the point of riding as mere practical transport or in the least cramping ones style severely.
Seriously, riding defensively is the safest bet if you going out there without a crumple zone...the Helo? I make my own from Police Auto and marine reflective taping. Can't notice the difference in the day, and 90% as reflective as the Helo at night, lasts longer in severe weather too. The duck bill? I use Oakley straight back shades or Night and Day visors. You get pretty good at swapping visors with one hand (Pull off the road first!), and you don't look like a 40 something trying to be practical on a MOTORCYCLE ( oxymoron )!
Seriously, riding defensively is the safest bet if you going out there without a crumple zone...the Helo? I make my own from Police Auto and marine reflective taping. Can't notice the difference in the day, and 90% as reflective as the Helo at night, lasts longer in severe weather too. The duck bill? I use Oakley straight back shades or Night and Day visors. You get pretty good at swapping visors with one hand (Pull off the road first!), and you don't look like a 40 something trying to be practical on a MOTORCYCLE ( oxymoron )!
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first off Steven, It's called a "Halo" not a "helo". Secondly, I turned 44 on sunday, and thirdly, I believe in safe . fun riding, emphasis on both. While I believe in being flashy to a point, I also believe in practicallity that works. Someday when you get some more experience under your wheels you'll understand that too. Nothing wrong with looking good. Even better is looking good while serving a purpose.
I've used a Fog City Pro Shield for a couple of years, on a Shoei RF-900 with a clear shield, and once used to the slight distortion (more reflection from my face than distortion), it's been great. It's probably time to put in a new one, as the anti-fog properties seem to diminish over a long time (cleaning it carefully helps, but scratching it is hardly aviodable).
I've also used a Super-visor for the same couple of years. Okay, it's not pretty. Okay, cool guys call it geeky. Neither of these wildly important things keep it from doing exactly what it needs to do, which is shade your face.
If you ride in and out of shady sections of the road, especially if the sun is particularly bright, you can't see into the dark areas. It's kind of exciting, to have such faith in the condition of the road and one's fellow road users that you can just charge into those dark holes without knowing what's on or in the road. Tinted shields or sunglasses darken it so you're not taking the full brightness in the eyes riding into the sun, but they darken those shady areas, too (so I'm not sold on the self-darkening shield). Shading your eyes allows you to see into those areas better. If you don't believe me, try it yourself: as you approach a shaded section of road, shade your eyes with your hand - it'll make a huge difference in how well you can see in there. Same thing for a visor in a car.
When I first used the Super-visor, it didn't come with the little standoff kit or the ampule of surface prep. The visor was not only too low (I had to tip my head back to see from underneath it, and I couldn't get a finger up under it to wipe rain off of the shield), the stickum didn't hold it on when the visor got bumped in handling the helmet. After re-sticking a few times, the stickum really didn't stick. The amazing thing about the design of it was that even up to 80 or so, the force of the oncoming air only held it in place better. The worst thing that happened was that the goop would give up and the visor would tilt down slightly on to the shield, but it never flew off. After installing the hi-rise kit with the etchant, the thing has never come unstuck. The fellow I talked to at Super-Visor said they have helmets hanging by the visors in their office to show the strength of the attachment.
I'm going to keep using both of these things. In little part of California where I live, it rains an average of 85 inches a year, I ride year-round, and the commute is eastbound into the sun in the morning, westbound into the sun in the evening. Both products make it easier, more comfortable, and safer.
If you think the Super-visor is too ugly, check out the new Arai XD hybrid helmet with the integral visor. much cooler, but still functional.
I've also used a Super-visor for the same couple of years. Okay, it's not pretty. Okay, cool guys call it geeky. Neither of these wildly important things keep it from doing exactly what it needs to do, which is shade your face.
If you ride in and out of shady sections of the road, especially if the sun is particularly bright, you can't see into the dark areas. It's kind of exciting, to have such faith in the condition of the road and one's fellow road users that you can just charge into those dark holes without knowing what's on or in the road. Tinted shields or sunglasses darken it so you're not taking the full brightness in the eyes riding into the sun, but they darken those shady areas, too (so I'm not sold on the self-darkening shield). Shading your eyes allows you to see into those areas better. If you don't believe me, try it yourself: as you approach a shaded section of road, shade your eyes with your hand - it'll make a huge difference in how well you can see in there. Same thing for a visor in a car.
When I first used the Super-visor, it didn't come with the little standoff kit or the ampule of surface prep. The visor was not only too low (I had to tip my head back to see from underneath it, and I couldn't get a finger up under it to wipe rain off of the shield), the stickum didn't hold it on when the visor got bumped in handling the helmet. After re-sticking a few times, the stickum really didn't stick. The amazing thing about the design of it was that even up to 80 or so, the force of the oncoming air only held it in place better. The worst thing that happened was that the goop would give up and the visor would tilt down slightly on to the shield, but it never flew off. After installing the hi-rise kit with the etchant, the thing has never come unstuck. The fellow I talked to at Super-Visor said they have helmets hanging by the visors in their office to show the strength of the attachment.
I'm going to keep using both of these things. In little part of California where I live, it rains an average of 85 inches a year, I ride year-round, and the commute is eastbound into the sun in the morning, westbound into the sun in the evening. Both products make it easier, more comfortable, and safer.
If you think the Super-visor is too ugly, check out the new Arai XD hybrid helmet with the integral visor. much cooler, but still functional.
I'm sorry, what purpose? Being safe? On a motorcycle...at night...at 44? (just kidd'n, congrats and many more to yah) But let's get back to the products.
The duckbill works. Works like any shade over your eyes! But with the way it looks, why not just bond a shovel spade on your helmet (ok, visor top) it'd probably look better. This isn't a philosophical debate on practicality vs superficiality, though. This is a product with a shortcomings. Shortcomings that makes for debates of this issue (evidence, all your feedback). In light of this and in terms of product execution and design, this product is a failure. I say we demand more from our products, looks to match its function. The Halo (thanks sp) is cutting it close...and the Fog City, no real conflict there (well, some function issues).
The way this justification mill keeps rolling, we will soon be wearing suits with airbags, flashing strobe lights, and duckbill visors. Hell, if you make it look good...gosh, I don't think there'll be much philosophical debate or justification over it. Well maybe with the spouse over taking it home.
The duckbill works. Works like any shade over your eyes! But with the way it looks, why not just bond a shovel spade on your helmet (ok, visor top) it'd probably look better. This isn't a philosophical debate on practicality vs superficiality, though. This is a product with a shortcomings. Shortcomings that makes for debates of this issue (evidence, all your feedback). In light of this and in terms of product execution and design, this product is a failure. I say we demand more from our products, looks to match its function. The Halo (thanks sp) is cutting it close...and the Fog City, no real conflict there (well, some function issues).
The way this justification mill keeps rolling, we will soon be wearing suits with airbags, flashing strobe lights, and duckbill visors. Hell, if you make it look good...gosh, I don't think there'll be much philosophical debate or justification over it. Well maybe with the spouse over taking it home.
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