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What's up with Honda? I would think that Fontana would play right into the hands of a VTwin.
 

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I would have thought so also. Particularly interesting that the Suzuki strength was in the tight infield -- the very place I would have predicted them to struggle. If the Suzukis also dominate at Sears Point (of whatever it is taht they call it now), it could shape up as a long, hard season for everyone else.



I am not a fan of Mladin as a person, but from what I saw of his riding this past weekend, I cannot find any fault with his on-track performance. By contrast, Ben still seems to be struggling to adapt the the Honda.



Still, can't attribute all of the Suzuki success to Mladin, as Yates and Spies were almost as fast (Spies chose not to run Superbike, but did practice with them and was 2nd fastest).



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What DID happen to Sean?

I don't see him anywhere:

Unofficial AMA Supersport Race Results:

1. Jamie Hacking, Yamaha, 17 laps

2. Aaron Gobert, Yamaha, -2.621 seconds

3. Tommy Hayden, Kawasaki, -4.360 seconds

4. Damon Buckmaster, Yamaha, -4.483 seconds

5. Ben Spies, Suzuki, -16.627 seconds

6. Doug Chandler, Honda, -18.332 seconds

7. Miguel Duhamel, Honda, -21.751 seconds

8. Roger Lee Hayden, Honda, -22.824 seconds

9. Jason DiSalvo, Yamaha, -22.827 seconds

10. Jake Zemke, Honda, -24.180 seconds

11. Alex Gobert, Honda, -29.239 seconds

12. Ty Howard, Honda, -29.390 seconds

13. Marty Craggill, Honda, -32.705 seconds

14. Steve Crevier, Suzuki, -33.491 seconds

15. Tony Meiring, Kawasaki, -33.120 seconds

16. Chris Peris, Honda, -42.298 seconds

17. Craig Connell, Honda, -57.014 seconds

18. Nate Wait, Kawasaki, -57.990 seconds

19. Jason Perez, Suzuki, -58.411 seconds

20. Jason Curtis, Honda, -80.603

21. Thad Halsmer, Yamaha, -84.430

22. Clint McBain, Suzuki, -92.418

23. Francis Martin, Suzuki, -97.792

24. Lenny Beckman, Kawasaki, -1 lap

25. Scott Simpson, Suzuki, -1 lap

26. Matt Zurbuchen, Suzuki, -1 lap

27. David Guy, Suzuki, -1 lap

28. Tim Knutson, Yamaha, -1 lap

29. Matt Hartlieb, Suzuki, -1 lap

30. David Lambert, Suzuki, -1 lap

31. James Jessen, Yamaha, -1 lap

32. James Kerker, Honda, -1 lap

33. Jay Tanner, Yamaha, -1 lap

34. Tim Cook, Yamaha, -1 lap

35. Hector Romero, Yamaha, -1 lap

36. Heath Small, Yamaha, -1 lap

37. Matt Wait, Yamaha, -3 laps, DNF, mechanical

38. Jamie Stauffer, Yamaha, -4 laps, DNF

39. Andrew Nelson, Honda, -5 laps, DNF

40. Jeff Williams, Suzuki, -6 laps, DNF

41. Quenton Wilson, Suzuki, -8 laps, DNF

42. Chris Siebenhaar, Honda, -11 laps, DNF

43. Ty Howard, Honda, DNF

44. James Mann, Yamaha, DNF
 

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He qualified for Superstock:

1 1 1: 23.507 99.153 JIMMY MOORE SUZ 750 1: 23.507

2 107 1: 25.957 96.327 JAMIE STAUFFER YAM 600 1: 25.957

3 143 1: 27.830 94.273 CHRIS CAYLOR SUZ 750 1: 27.830

4 3 1: 27.969 94.124 VINCENT HASKOVEC SUZ 750 1: 27.969

5 22 1: 27.989 94.103 TOMMY HAYDEN KAW 636 1: 27.989 1: 28.469

6 68 1: 28.125 93.957 ADAM FERGUSSON SUZ 750 1: 28.125 1: 28.856

7 44 1: 28.913 93.125 JOHN HANER SUZ 750 1: 28.913 1: 30.043

8 4 1: 28.926 93.111 JOSHUA KURT HAYES SUZ 750 1: 28.926 1: 29.216

9 313 1: 28.968 93.067 CHRIS PERIS HON 600 1: 28.968

10 40 1: 29.253 92.770 JASON DISALVO YAM 600 1: 29.253 1: 29.487

11 101 1: 29.388 92.630 JORDAN M SZOKE SUZ 750 1: 29.388

12 56 1: 29.449 92.567 TONY MEIRING KAW 636 1: 29.459 1: 29.449

13 59 1: 29.525 92.488 JACOB L HOLDEN SUZ 750 1: 29.525

14 125 1: 29.823 92.181 MATTHEW WAIT YAM 600 1: 29.823

15 18 1: 29.902 92.100 CHRIS ULRICH SUZ 750 1: 29.902 1: 30.605

16 58 1: 29.937 92.064 MATTHEW FURTEK SUZ 750 1: 30.809 1: 29.937

17 54 1: 29.943 92.058 JEREMY TOYE SUZ 750 1: 30.510 1: 29.943

18 34 1: 30.353 91.641 BRIAN STOKES SUZ 750 1: 30.353 1: 32.895

19 53 1: 30.493 91.499 JOHN DUGAN SUZ 750 1: 30.493

20 23 1: 30.955 91.034 RICH CONICELLI SUZ 750 1: 30.955

21 74 1: 31.606 90.387 JASON PEREZ SUZ 600 1: 32.252 1: 31.606

22 12 1: 31.861 90.136 ALAN SCHMIDT SUZ 750 1: 32.171 1: 31.861

23 13 1: 32.079 89.923 MIKE D CICCOTTO SUZ 750 1: 32.079

24 69 1: 32.447 89.565 DANNY ESLICK SUZ 750 1: 32.447

25 28 1: 32.610 89.407 JEFF BOSTROM SUZ 750 1: 33.473 1: 32.610

26 26 1: 32.764 89.259 ANDREW NELSON HON 600 1: 32.764

27 94 1: 32.912 89.117 TOM WERTMAN SUZ 750 1: 34.702 1: 32.912

28 488 1: 32.949 89.081 CHRIS SIGLIN SUZ 600 1: 32.949 1: 33.359

29 118 1: 33.039 88.995 THAD I HALSMER YAM 1: 33.039

30 105 1: 33.179 88.861 BRIAN MUSSELMAN SUZ 750 1: 33.179

31 62 1: 33.292 88.754 MICKEY P LANE SUZ 750 1: 33.743 1: 33.292

32 38 1: 33.551 88.508 SCOTT SIMPSON SUZ 600 1: 34.604 1: 33.551

33 940 1: 33.625 88.438 J J ROETLIN SUZ 750 1: 34.809 1: 33.625

34 232 1: 34.184 87.913 CHAD ROLLAND SUZ 750 1: 34.716 1: 34.184

35 9 1: 34.299 87.806 ERIC ERLING HAUGO SUZ 750 1: 34.299

36 117 1: 34.642 87.488 MARK SIMON SUZ 750 1: 34.642

37 708 1: 35.077 87.087 DAVID RN BELL SUZ 750 1: 35.575 1: 35.077

38 79 1: 35.288 86.894 JEREMY CHISUM SUZ 750 1: 35.288

39 727 1: 35.324 86.862 SEAN K ALEXANDER KAW 636 1: 35.324

40 144 1: 36.435 85.861 MATT ZURBUCHEN SUZ 600 1: 36.435

41 176 1: 37.552 84.878 MICHAEL KOSTA SUZ 750 1: 37.552

42 200 1: 37.589 84.846 CHRIS L SIEBENHAAR HON 600 1: 37.589

43 180 1: 37.743 84.712 JODY HENDLEY HD 1200 1: 37.743

44 90 1: 40.525 82.368 DAVID L LAMBERT SUZ 600 1: 40.525
 

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Corrected Where is Sean

He's not in SuperStock either:

1 22 TOMMY HAYDEN OWENSBORO, KY KAW 636 15

2 45 LEE ACREE JAMESTOWN, NC SUZ 750 15 0.009

3 36 ERIC C WOOD MANSFIELD, MA SUZ 750 15 0.098

4 51 STEVE RAPP CORONA, CA SUZ 750 15 0.209

5 3 VINCENT HASKOVEC LAKE ELSINORE, CA SUZ 750 15 1.41

6 13 MIKE D CICCOTTO SEBASTIAN, FL SUZ 750 15 1.412

7 68 ADAM FERGUSSON BIRMINGHAM, AL SUZ 750 15 1.436

8 56 TONY MEIRING TRACY, CA KAW 636 15 7.576

9 40 JASON DISALVO STAFFORD, NY YAM 600 15 12.059

10 58 MATTHEW FURTEK SOUTH HOLLAND, IL SUZ 750 15 12.067

11 4 JOSHUA KURT HAYES GULFPORT, MS SUZ 750 15 12.135

12 18 CHRIS ULRICH LAKE ELSINORE, CA SUZ 750 15 16.839

13 89 SCOTT A GREENWOOD DUNBARTON, NH SUZ 750 15 17.387

14 101 JORDAN M SZOKE CANADA, ON SUZ 750 15 17.424

15 1 JIMMY MOORE EUGENE, OR SUZ 750 15 20.769

16 34 BRIAN STOKES KINGSTON, GA SUZ 750 15 21.656

17 143 CHRIS CAYLOR MARIETTA, GA SUZ 750 15 22.421

18 23 RICH CONICELLI LAWRENCEVILLE, GA SUZ 750 15 22.426

19 2 SCOTT F HARWELL LINCOLNTON, NC SUZ 750 15 25.721

20 44 JOHN HANER PEARLAND, TX SUZ 750 15 25.779

21 21 HAWK MAZZOTTA PEBBLE BEACH, CA SUZ 750 15 37.941

22 940 J J ROETLIN KALONA, IA SUZ 750 15 38.458

23 99 JASON PETERS INDIANAPOLIS, IN SUZ 750 15 39.592

24 59 JACOB L HOLDEN PUYALLUP, WA SUZ 750 15 46.823

25 5 JUSTIN N BLAKE CALEDONIA, MI SUZ 750 15 51.131

26 30 KEVIN W PATE CROWLEY, TX SUZ 750 15 60.006

27 10 DAVID M ESTOK NEW SMYRNA BEACH, FL BUE 1000 15 84.708

28 81 C R GITTERE CHARLOTTE, NC SUZ 750 15 103.131

29 94 TOM WERTMAN PUYALLUP, WA SUZ 750 15 106.457

30 9 ERIC ERLING HAUGO FLAGSTAFF, AZ SUZ 750 15 119.641

31 155 CRASH CHRIS LOWE LONGMONT, CO SUZ 750 15 119.682

32 851 MICHAEL A HANLEY MIAMI, FL SUZ 750 14 ---

33 160 S. DAVID ALLEY ANNAPOLIS, MD SUZ 750 14 ---

34 26 ANDREW NELSON CANADA, ON HON 600 14 ---

35 43 JASON R PRIDMORE VENTURA, CA SUZ 750 13 ---

36 721 MICHAEL S MCALLISTER MARSHALL, MI YAM 600 9 ---

37 27 MICHAEL R HANNAS II OAKLAND, CA SUZ 750 8 ---

38 313 CHRIS PERIS CALGARY, AB HON 600 6 ---

39 53 JOHN DUGAN WASHOUGAL, WA SUZ 750 4 ---

40 517 OTTIS R LANCE ARGYLE, TX BMG 1000 4 ---

41 6 DAMON S BUCKMASTER CYPRESS, CA YAM 600 0-DNS ---

42 125 MATTHEW WAIT LODI, CA YAM 600 0-DNS ---

43 35 TY HOWARD FORT WORTH, TX HON 600 0-DNS ---

44 220 GREG MOORE BROOKWOOD, AL SUZ 750 0-DNS ---

45 118 THAD I HALSMER WOODLAND HILLS, CA YAM 600 0-DNS ---

46 8 OWEN WEICHEL HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA KAW 600 0-DNS ---

47 833 DARRIN MITCHELL BELLEVUE, NE SUZ 600 0-DNS ---

48 350 PAUL J VITALE WARREN, MI SUZ 750 0-DNS ---

49 501 THOMAS L FOURNIER BROCKTON, MA DUC 996 0-DNS ---

50 75 JAMES KERKER MARYSVILLE, OH HON 600 0-DNS ---
 

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I think that's more Eric than the bike - not to discount the job the team is doing, but I really don't think anybody else would be anywhere near the podium on that machine. Did you catch the discussion of various teams changes between races? Mladin's bike was tweaked a bit, the Honda's seemed to have at least a gearing change, and Kawasaki changed...nothing. Eric decided to go faster on the same bike, tires and setup. Damn!
 

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Re: Corrected Where is Sean

Those are the Daytona Results- here are the ones from Fontana.

1 22 TOMMY HAYDEN OWENSBORO, KY KAW 636 14 --- KAWASAKI / LP USA / MAXIMA / DUNLOP

2 68 ADAM FERGUSSON , SUZ 750 14 3.604 CORONA EXTRA SUZUKI / EBSCO MEDIA / SIDI / HJC AMERICA

3 56 TONY MEIRING TRACY, CA KAW 636 14 9.645 KAWASAKI / LP USA / MAXIMA / DUNLOP

4 143 CHRIS CAYLOR MARIETTA, GA SUZ 750 14 9.801 EMGO / FASTLAP / PIRELLI / FREE WHEELIN / M4 / PITBULL / EBC / V

5 3 VINCENT HASKOVEC LAKE ELSINORE, CA SUZ 750 14 11.235 HOOTERS / SUZUKI / PIRELLI / HAULMARK / TIFORCE / TORCO / VP /

6 1 JIMMY MOORE EUGENE, OR SUZ 750 14 11.236 CORONA SUZUKI / EBSCO / DUNLOP / SHOEI / JOE ROCKET / SIDI / M

7 107 JAMIE STAUFFER AUSTRALIA, YAM 600 14 20.119 LIBASCI RACING / APRILIA DUCATI OF OCEANSIDE / DUNLOP /

8 44 JOHN HANER PEARLAND, TX SUZ 750 14 20.498 MOTION / SHOGUN / PIRELLI / YOSHIMURA / HELIMOT / RK / LP / SHAR

9 40 JASON DISALVO STAFFORD, NY YAM 600 14 20.542 YAMAHA MOTOR CORP / DUNLOP / YAMALUBE / GYT R

10 4 JOSHUA KURT HAYES GULFPORT, MS SUZ 750 14 24.618 ATTACK SUZUKI / DUNLOP / ARAI / TEKNIC

11 125 MATTHEW WAIT LODI, CA YAM 600 14 24.643 VORTEX / RK / YAMALUBE / TROY LEE / TRAXXION DYNAMICS / WOOD

12 54 JEREMY TOYE SAN DIEGO, CA SUZ 750 14 27.938

13 53 JOHN DUGAN WASHOUGAL, WA SUZ 750 14 34.309 NIC-REVTECH / EDR / DUNLOP / TEKNIC / ARAI / EBC / INDIGO / LP / S

14 313 CHRIS PERIS CANADA, CA HON 600 14 37.278 BIKECARDS.COM / EBC BRAKES

15 23 RICH CONICELLI LAWRENCEVILLE, GA SUZ 750 14 42.737 HSA / KWS / DUNLOP / ACTION MOTORS / SDI / OXTAR / YOSHI / SHOEI

16 101 JORDAN M SZOKE CANADA, ON SUZ 750 14 42.857 CORONA EXTRA SUZ / EBSCO / JOE ROCKET / SHOEI / SIDI / YOSH

17 12 ALAN SCHMIDT CANADA, BC SUZ 750 14 45.654 TUFF DOG / PIRELLI / MAXIMA / RPM / GERICKE / FLEXI-GLASS

18 74 JASON PEREZ BRENTWOOD, CA SUZ 600 14 51.831 CONCEPT 5 / AIP / DUNLOP / FLUID SUSPENSION / MOTUL / VP

19 18 CHRIS ULRICH LAKE ELSINORE, CA SUZ 750 14 61.979 VALVOLINE EMGO SUZUKI / MICHELIN / ALPINESTARS / M4 / ARAI

20 62 MICKEY P LANE VALLEJO, CA SUZ 750 14 70.309

21 38 SCOTT SIMPSON RIVERSIDE, CA SUZ 600 14 72.374 MICHELIN / BATES / MOTUL / AFTERSHOCKS / IRP / LOCKHART PHIL

22 940 J J ROETLIN KALONA, IA SUZ 750 14 77.943 TWIN CNTY DAIRY / SUZUKI / IA CITY MTRSPRTS / MOON SUPER

23 9 ERIC ERLING HAUGO FLAGSTAFF, AZ SUZ 750 14 78.686 HUGF INDUSTRIES / OXTAR / HELD

24 94 TOM WERTMAN PUYALLUP, WA SUZ 750 14 79.462 DUNLOP / ARAI / EBC / LP / BARDALL / SIDI / EDR / VP

25 13 MIKE D CICCOTTO SEBASTIAN, FL SUZ 750 14 80.388 HOOTERS SUZUKI / ARAI / CORSA / TORCO / PIRELLI / ALPINESTAR

26 28 JEFF BOSTROM CEDAR RIDGE, CA SUZ 750 14 81.004 GP TECH / SMS / SUZUKI / OZ / TEKNIC / AP / VALTER MOTO / AIRTEC

27 232 CHAD ROLLAND GOLD CANYON, AZ SUZ 750 14 85.603

28 69 DANNY ESLICK BROKEN ARROW, OK SUZ 750 14 87.116 ATTACH SUZUKI, ARROW DUNLOP MAXIMA SHARK SKINS, VP FUEL, TECKNIC, ARIA

29 105 BRIAN MUSSELMAN PUYALLUP, WA SUZ 750 14 87.947 DUNLOP / VORTEX / WINTEX LEATHERS / MOTOHEAVEN / LP / EBC / SP

30 58 MATTHEW FURTEK SOUTH HOLLAND, IL SUZ 750 14 87.948 VALVOLINE / SUZUKI / EMGO / MICHELIN / M4 / ARAI / DYNAJET / GMD

31 708 DAVID RN BELL SAN FRANCISCO, CA SUZ 750 13 ---

32 79 JEREMY CHISUM SALINAS, CA SUZ 750 13 --- SIDI / PJ1 OIL / VORTEX / REGINA / NO FEAR / LATHOM / LP RAC

33 727 SEAN K ALEXANDER SIMI VALLEY, CA KAW 636 13 --- MOTORCYCLE.COM / KAWASAKI / PIRELLI / ARAI

34 117 MARK SIMON VENICE, CA SUZ 750 13 ---

35 488 CHRIS SIGLIN CLAYTON, CA SUZ 600 13 --- RICH SIGLIN / CRS / PIRELLI / VP / MOTUL

36 34 BRIAN STOKES KINGSTON, GA SUZ 750 5 --- TEAM EMBRY / EGI / PIRELLI / ARAI / OHLINS / SBS / PARTS UNLTD

37 59 JACOB L HOLDEN PUYALLUP, WA SUZ 750 4 --- RICCI MTRSPRTS / DUNLOP / BARDAHL SUZUKI / ARAI / FACTORY /

38 26 ANDREW NELSON CANADA, ON HON 600 0-DNF --- SRT / KIMPEX HONDA / DUNLOP / HINDLE / SPYKE / NUTEC

39 21 HAWK MAZZOTTA PEBBLE BEACH, CA SUZ 750 0-DNF --- TEAM STAR SUZUKI / DUNLOP / ALPINESTARS / SUOMY / SPY

40 253 NATHAN HESTER PRIEST RIVER, ID SUZ 750 0-DNF --- HESTER RACING / AURORA SUZKUKI / ADRENALINE FREAKS / PIRELLI

41 111 CRAIG CONNELL AUSTRALIA, FL HON 600 0-DNS --- ANNANDALE / AMERICAN HONDA / MICHELIN / M4 EXHAUST

42 35 TY HOWARD WEATHERFORD, TX HON 600 0-DNS --- ANNANDALE / AMERICAN HONDA / MICHELIN / M4 EXHAUST

43 118 THAD I HALSMER WOODLAND HILLS, CA YAM 0-DNS --- ARAI / TI FORCE / MICHELIN / NUTECH / PITBULL

44 371 CLINT MCBAIN CANADA, AB SUZ 600 0-DNS --- SUZUKI / BLACKFOOT MTRSPRTS / COORS LIGHT RACING / DUNLOP

RACE TIME: 20:49.8 min.

WINNER'S AVG. SPEED: 92.751 mph

WINNER'S AVG. LAP TIME: 1:29.271

SECOND PLACE AVG. SPEED: 92.484 mph

SECOND PLACE AVG. LAP TIME: 1:29.529

You can see he's 33rd. Forgive me if the bold thing doesn't work- I still don't know how to do that.
 

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Is the Soozuk really that fast?

Maladin was that much faster through the tight stuff? If you saw the front straight trap speeds you'd wonder how the heck he got through the infield so fast.

It looks like the decesion to put an extra 15lbs on the superbikes (1000cc twins and 778cc 4's) might have been a mistake.

Actualy I think 1000cc 4's were a mistake and they should have just permitted the overbore on the 4's.
 

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EBos must have one hell of a deal with Kawasaki to keep riding that "old" bike. Eric is my favortie rider and Kawasaki is my favorite brand, but damn how much longer is he going to to stay in the AMA, particularly on the 750!?! I would have loved to see him and Nicky racing on more even equipment! Maybe Kawasaki will get their GP bike running strong by next year for him.
 

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Re: Is the Soozuk really that fast?

Actually, a couple of articles in AMAsuperbike.com indicated that at least the RC51s were never under 370 in race trim anyway, so the rule change had no impact. Apparently it did impact the Kawasaki, and I don't know about the Ducati.
 

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KPaul -- Where are the 600RR's?

So much for the "dominant" CBR600RRs. I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I do like to tweak my buddy KPaul a bit! Personally, I was cheering for the Suzuki, being the obsolete POS that it is.

We will have to wait and see if it is just this track being unkind to Hondas, or if the RR is really that far off the pace. Based on this one race, I suggest that KPaul should start hanging out at the local Yamaha dealer, and trying on the R6 for size.
 
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