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After a case of sticker shock looking at PIAA's HID look-a-like offerings, I took a chance on the Nokya Arctic White H4 bulbs in my Triumph Speed Triple. I was very surprised by the decrease in perceived glare and improved contrast in nighttime visibility. Money well spent. They were a bit more (~$40 / pr) than these but No Complaints here.
 

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What bothers me is that companies claim these "superwhite" coatings give you more light for the same amount of wattage (ie. "our 55/60W bulb produces light ouput equal to a 100W bulb"). Buyer beware.
 

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Thank God I didn't pull the trigger on a blue tinted H4 a couple hours ago when I ordered my fender eliminator and crankcase breather.



Thanks for the article. Sticky-slicky or whatever should get reembursed the $35 or so, even if he "had" to buy the bulbs anyway.
 

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Fantastic...

You've used my subscription funds to perform a comparison on light bulbs!
Go MO!
I think an in-depth article on the merits of tyre valve caps should come next! Or maybe different colours of duct tape! (red is obviously faster)
 

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Did they really use your funds? Are you really annoyed if they did? This is practical, useful stuff. Obviously there is some sarcasm in your post, but not sure where it starts and stops.
For the record, [/sarcasm] i enjoyed this article, and think it is useful./strong> Tops.
 

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Did they really use your funds? Are you really annoyed if they did? This is practical, useful stuff. Obviously there is some sarcasm in your post, but not sure where it starts and stops.

For the record, [/sarcasm] i enjoyed this article, and think it is useful. Tops.
 

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Other light functions...

Slightly off topic:

Are your indicators alight all the time your light is on, in the US?
And when you activate your indicator, does it then flash "Off-On" rather than "On-Off", like here in Australia?

No real reason, just curious...
 

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Re: Other light functions...

Most bikes in the US are off, unless activated by the turn signal. However, more and more bikes are coming from the factory with turn signal indicator lights that default to on and blink from there.
 

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Deceptive Title, El Intern

When I saw an article written by "Stickie" and entitled "Fun with Headlights," I thought for sure that we were going to get some more shots of Raynette. Alas, it was not to be.

Anyways, the intern seems to be doing well, so keep up the good work.
 

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Re: Other light functions...

Cheers, thanks for the reply. I first knoticed it in that latest Ahnold crap-fest, when the bad guys were on the CBR in the tunnel. And how nicely did that bike disassemble itself when it exploded. "Honda Undocumented Feature"?
 

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Great idea for the article, but not enough research.



For instance, had you done a little digging you would have discovered that blue tinted bulbs are not street legal. Legal light colors out of the front of a car are white, off white, or amber/yellow.



Further, you would have discovered the difference between blue tinted bulbs and true HID bulbs, and why the HID bulbs are street legal (hint, the light is white, not blue)



Guys, I apreciate you're motorcyclists, but your journalists too. Do some digging?



Thanks!



Erik



 

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I purchased one of the Raybrig bulbs....don't remember actually which exact one...knowing

me, it was one of the cheaper units. The light

was advertised as White....and so it was. The road surface looked as it did in daylight. Don't actually KNOW if it was brighter....but to me the light was more natural and useable, to me

anyway. On highbeam, the lane dividers and signs LIT UP WAY down the road..much more that they did with the stock bulb. I feel it was worth the money. And I'll buy another when this one burns out. I would like to add some

aux light though ! for running with the low beam and high beam. Kirbster...

 

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Re: More Links with information

Thanks for those links- I was going to include lighting.mbz.org as a reference for lighting questions, but didn't for some reason.

Addressing your previous questions, I noted at the bottom of the article that the blue light was sold for "off-road use only," directly implying that it wasn't DOT approved or technically legal for street use.

Also, it's fairly obvious that a halogen bulb, no matter what color, is not the same as HID. That's why I didn't even try to draw a direct comparison between the two.
 

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Mellow Greetings,



First the positves. I felt this article was entertaining and well written. But, it was very subjective. I could have gotten the same information down at the bike shop. Would it be possible for future comparison articles to include some actual facts. Could you have measured the distance the beams projected, width of the beam, measured candle power, the perceived quantity and quality of light to other drivers, or the change in the amount of current each bulb draws from the OEM bulb.



I realize that MO is designed to be entertainment. I also understand that most journalism majors took the minimal amount of sciences needed to get their diploma. But, if you're going to give subjective opinions only, than you bring into question the knowledge base from which you draw. I'm not saying your wrong in the results of the comparison but you leave yourself open to these criticisms.



You can most likely tell from the poor quality of my writing that I have strong science background.



Take care,

Dave
 

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Haha. You think it's obvious. That's funny. I too would love to think that it is obvious but alas my faith in my fellow man's common sense is slipping.

You're a little wet behind the ears but we like you anyway. Keep up the good work. :)
 

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Motorcycle Consumer News did a bulb comparison test over the last year or so. Their results were similar, if a little more scientific. They also found that expensive aftermarket bulbs with hi-tech names were no better than standard bulbs with the same watt ratings.
 

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I agree. I would love to run a higher watt light in my SV but am concerned about the capacity of the stock wiring system.



There was no objective data at all in this article. You guys should pick up a copy of Car & Driver and see how they do product tests.
 
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